https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/ Disaster Message Service Discussion Board en-US Thu, 30 Apr 2026 00:45:33 +0000 wpForo 60 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1735 Mon, 05 Apr 1999 02:56:00 +0000 To make peace by kiling innocent peoples with bombs and rockets is nothing but sick idea. Only way to end this disaster is to talk.
Do you realy belive that pictures you see on screen of your TV is always true. CNN,SKY,... are spreding propaganda for NATO to justify their criminal acts.TRY TO THINK WITH YOUR HEAD!]]> Kosovo War dusan https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1735 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1734 Mon, 05 Apr 1999 02:55:00 +0000 bonz_id@yahoo.com'. Thank You!]]> Kosovo War bonz https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1734 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1733 Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:59:00 +0000 This is a report from the HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH....
http://www.hrw.org/hrw/reports/1999/kosovo/Obrinje6.htm

To read more...http://www.hrw.org/hrw/reports/1999/kosovo/Obrinje6.htm#TopOfPage...you may have to type in the last part to get this page.]]> Kosovo War dan https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1733 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1732 Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:43:00 +0000 Kosovo War insight https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1732 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1731 Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:24:00 +0000 Kosovo War guido https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1731 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1730 Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:49:00 +0000
Do you really believe that if 19 American service men were killed they can be returned to the USA without informing their families ? How long do you think before the FREE PRESS OF THE WORLD will get a hold of this information if it were true ?

Next to Serb STATE TV you quote some banana newspaper ("Athinaiki"). True to Slob indoctrination.

It will take some time before you get it, but let me repeat : The war is over ! You LOST.

The last obstacle to peace are the bodies in the fields of Kosova. Before the end of this month Milosovic will use his military to purge his Police. He will claim that Police-leadership went wild and that he is not to blame. He will promise tribunals and promptly execute those HE wish to call war-criminals.

He will remain a hero at home and he will then sue for peace and confuse the leaders of the world thus bringing military action to a grinding halt.

In essence he will barter peace for immunity for the attrocities.

People like you will jump at this deal and say 'see, Milosovic is not a bad guy'.
People like me will also accept the peace, because we accept two simple facts :
1. There is a God
2. We are not him.]]> Kosovo War jacklondon https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1730 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1729 Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:10:00 +0000
I am sure there are honest and good Serbs out there that can read these messages, as I am sure they are affraid to voice their opinion because the Serb Gestapo could do to its own the same things it did and does in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova.

I have a simple message to the good Serbs : the anger you read on this board are from peoples all over the world. We get our information from a very large number of independent news agencies. We hear the Red Cross and Amnesty International.

You get your messages from STATE T.V. If the media is an instrument, which one do you think is easier to misuse ?

The war is almost over - Milosivic is already curling his tail. He can no longer fight, but how must he hide the attrocities and massacres ? The only obstacle to peace now are the bodies in the fields of Kosova.

First he finds others to pin the blame. He will try to give NATO some of the blame saying that the bombs caused the bodies. But most pictures pre-date NATO bombs.

Before the end of April Milosovic will claim that he was unaware of the police brutalities in Kosova, like a scorpion he will purge his own military, execute or disappear all those that can attest that he was in charge. Over their dead bodies he will accuse them of being murderers.

This will fit with witness accounts that point to Serb police, even the date and condition of the assassinations are recorded. Milo will say that Arkan went wild, he will arrest him and turn him in.

Bad news is, that if he can not find suitable patsies he will keep fighting until the end - and it will be total destruction in Belgrade. At which time he will commit suicide, like his mother, his father, Goebels, Goering and Hitler.

We are truly very sorry that we must cause pain when extracting this rotten tooth. NATO tries to be anesthetic and limit the pain as much as possible, but one can not fully eliminate pain when one is pulling out a bad tooth. But it will soon be over and you will feel much better.]]> Kosovo War jacklondon https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1729 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1728 Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:13:00 +0000
The entire document can be found at http://www.balkanaction.org/pubs/kia299.html

The "agreement" is of course very long, so here is an excerpt.

Appendix B: Status of Multi-National Military Implementation Force

1. For the purposes of this Appendix, the following expressions shall have the meanings hereunder assigned to them:

a. "NATO" means the North Atlantic Treaty
Organization (NATO), its subsidiary bodies, its
military Headquarters, the NATO-led KFOR, and any
elements/units forming any part of KFOR or
supporting KFOR, whether or not they are from a
NATO member country and whether or not they are
under NATO or national command and control, when
acting in furtherance of this Agreement.

b. "Authorities in the FRY" means appropriate
authorities, whether Federal, Republic, Kosovo or
other.

c. "NATO personnel" means the military, civilian, and contractor personnel assigned or attached to or employed by NATO, including the military, civilian, and contractor personnel from non-NATO states participating in the Operation, with the exception of personnel locally hired.

d. "the Operation" means the support, implementation, preparation, and participation by NATO and NATO personnel in furtherance of this Chapter.

e. "Military Headquarters" means any entity, whatever its denomination, consisting of or constituted in part by NATO military personnel established in order to fulfill the Operation.

f. "Authorities" means the appropriate responsible
individual, agency, or organization of the Parties.

g. "Contractor personnel" means the technical experts or functional specialists whose services are required by NATO and who are in the territory of the FRY exclusively to serve NATO either in an
advisory capacity in technical matters, or for the
setting up, operation, or maintenance of equipment, unless they are:

(1) nationals of the FRY; or
(2) persons ordinarily resident in the FRY.

h. "Official use" means any use of goods purchased, or of the services received and intended for the performance of any function as required by the operation of the Headquarters.

i. "Facilities" means all buildings, structures,
premises, and land required for conducting the
operational, training, and administrative
activities by NATO for the Operation as well as for accommodation-of NATO personnel.

2. Without prejudice to their privileges and immunities under this Appendix, all NATO personnel shall respect the laws applicable in the FRY, whether Federal, Republic, Kosovo, or other, insofar as compliance with those laws is compatible with the entrusted tasks/mandate and shall refrain from activities not compatible with the nature of the Operation.

3. The Parties recognize the need for expeditious
departure and entry procedures for NATO personnel. Such personnel shall be exempt from passport and visa regulations and the registration requirements applicable to aliens. At all entry and exit points to/from the FRY, NATO personnel shall be permitted to enter/exit the FRY on production of a national identification (ID) card. NATO personnel shall carry identification which they may be requested to produce for the authorities in the FRY, but operations, training, and movement shall not be allowed to be impeded or delayed by such requests.

4. NATO military personnel shall normally wear uniforms, and NATO personnel may possess and carry arms if authorized to do so by their orders. The Parties shall accept as valid, without tax or fee, drivers, licenses and permits issued to NATO personnel by their respective national authorities.

5. NATO shall be permitted to display the NATO flag and/or national flags of its constituent national elements/units on any NATO uniform, means of transport, or facility.

6. a. NATO shall be immune from all legal process,
whether civil, administrative, or criminal.

b. NATO personnel, under all circumstances and at all times, shall be immune from the Parties,
jurisdiction in respect of any civil, administrative, criminal, or disciplinary offenses which may be committed by them in the FRY. The
Parties shall assist States participating in the
operation in the exercise of their jurisdiction
over their own nationals.

c. Notwithstanding the above, and with the NATO
Commander's express agreement in each case, the
authorities in the FRY may exceptionally exercise
jurisdiction in such matters, but only in respect
of Contractor personnel who are not subject to the
jurisdiction of their nation of citizenship.

7. NATO personnel shall be immune from any form of arrest, investigation, or detention by the authorities in the FRY. NATO personnel erroneously arrested or detained shall immediately be turned over to NATO authorities.

8. NATO personnel shall enjoy, together with their
vehicles, vessels, aircraft, and equipment, free and unrestricted passage and unimpeded access throughout the FRY including associated airspace and territorial waters. This shall include, but not be limited to, the right of bivouac, maneuver, billet, and utilization of any areas or facilities as required for support, training, and operations.

9. NATO shall be exempt from duties, taxes, and other charges and inspections and custom regulations including providing inventories or other routine customs documentation, for personnel, vehicles, vessels, aircraft, equipment, supplies, and provisions entering, exiting, or transiting the territory of the FRY in support of the Operation.

10. The authorities in the FRY shall facilitate, on a priority basis and with all appropriate means, all movement of personnel, vehicles, vessels, aircraft, equipment, or supplies, through or in the airspace, ports, airports, or roads used. No charges may be assessed against NATO for air navigation, landing, or takeoff of aircraft, whether government-owned or chartered. Similarly, no duties, dues, tolls or charges may be assessed against NATO ships, whether government-owned or chartered, for the mere entry and exit of ports. Vehicles, vessels, and aircraft used in support of the operation shall not be subject to licensing or registration requirements, nor commercial insurance.

11. NATO is granted the use of airports, roads, rails, and ports without payment of fees, duties, dues, tolls, or charges occasioned by mere use. NATO shall not, however, claim exemption from reasonable charges for specific services requested and received, but operations/movement and access shall not be allowed to be impeded pending payment for such services.

12. NATO personnel shall be exempt from taxation by the Parties on the salaries and emoluments received from NATO and on any income received from outside the FRY.

13. NATO personnel and their tangible moveable property imported into, acquired in, or exported from the FRY shall be exempt from all duties, taxes, and other charges and inspections and custom regulations.

14. NATO shall be allowed to import and to export, free of duty, taxes and other charges, such equipment, provisions, and supplies as NATO shall require for the operation, provided such goods are for the official use of NATO or for sale to NATO personnel. Goods sold shall be solely for the use of NATO personnel and not transferable to unauthorized persons.

15. The Parties recognize that the use of communications channels is necessary for the Operation. NATO shall be allowed to operate its own internal mail services.

The Parties shall, upon simple request, grant all
telecommunications services, including broadcast
services, needed for the Operation, as determined by NATO. This shall include the right to utilize such means and services as required to assure full ability to communicate, and the right to use all of the electromagnetic spectrum for this purpose, free of cost. In implementing this right, NATO shall make every reasonable effort to coordinate with and take into account the needs and requirements of appropriate authorities in the FRY.

16. The Parties shall provide, free of cost, such public facilities as NATO shall require to prepare for and execute the Operation. The Parties shall assist NATO in obtaining, at the lowest rate, the necessary utilities, such as electricity, water, gas and other resources, as NATO shall require for the Operation.

17. NATO and NATO personnel shall be immune from claims of any sort which arise out of activities in pursuance of the operation; however, NATO will entertain claims on an ex gratia basis.

18. NATO shall be allowed to contract directly for the acquisition of goods, services, and construction from any source within and outside the FRY. Such contracts, goods, services, and construction shall not be subject to the payment of duties, taxes, or other charges. NATO may also carry out construction works with their own personnel.

19. Commercial undertakings operating in the FRY only in the service of NATO shall be exempt from local laws and regulations with respect to the terms and conditions of their employment and licensing and registration of employees, businesses, and corporations.

20. NATO may hire local personnel who on an individual basis shall remain subject to local laws and regulations with the exception of labor/employment laws. However, local personnel hired by NATO shall:

a. be immune from legal process in respect of words spoken or written and all acts performed by them in their official capacity;

b. be immune from national services and/or national military service obligations;

c. be subject only to employment terms and
conditions established by NATO; and
d. be exempt from taxation on the salaries and
emoluments paid to them by NATO.

21. In carrying out its authorities under this Chapter, NATO is authorized to detain individuals and, as quickly as possible, turn them over to appropriate officials.

22. NATO may, in the conduct of the Operation, have need to make improvements or modifications to certain infrastructure in the FRY, such as roads, bridges, tunnels, buildings, and utility systems. Any such improvements or modifications of a non-temporary nature shall become part of and in the same ownership as that infrastructure. Temporary improvements or modifications may be removed at the discretion of the NATO Commander, and the infrastructure returned to as near its original condition as possible, fair wear and
tear excepted.

23. Failing any prior settlement, disputes with the regard to the interpretation or application of this Appendix shall be settled between NATO and the appropriate authorities in the FRY.

24. Supplementary arrangements with any of the Parties may be concluded to facilitate any details connected with the Operation.

25. The provisions of this Appendix shall remain in force until completion of the Operation or as the Parties and NATO otherwise agree.

Chapter 8
Amendment, Comprehensive Assessment, and Final Clauses

Article I: Amendment and Comprehensive Assessment

1.Amendments to this Agreement shall be adopted by agreement of all the Parties, except as otherwise provided by Article X of Chapter 1.

2. Each Party may propose amendments at any time and will consider and consult with the other Parties with regard to proposed amendments.

3. Three years after the entry into force of this Agreement, an international meeting shall be convened to determine a mechanism for a final settlement for Kosovo, on the basis of the will of the people, opinions of relevant authorities, each Party’s efforts regarding the implementation of this Agreement, and the Helsinki Final Act, and to undertake a comprehensive assessment of the implementation of this Agreement and to consider proposals by any Party for additional measures.

Article II: Final Clauses

1. This Agreement is signed in the English language.

After signature of this Agreement, translations will be made into Serbian, Albanian, and other languages of the national communities of Kosovo, and attached to the English text.

2. This Agreement shall enter into force upon signature.


For the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
For the Republic of Serbia
For Kosovo

Witnessed by:

For the European Union
For the Russian Federation For the United States of America


The FRY (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) did not sign this document. Why ? If you read the above, you understood that no less than occupation (military and commercial) of Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo would have been allowed and enforced.

NATO, a soon-to-be-extinct peacekeeping force, attempts to coerce a sovereign nation in order to occupy its territory.

Nicolas]]> Kosovo War nick https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1728 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1727 Sun, 04 Apr 1999 14:17:00 +0000
"The lives of these American soldiers are worth more than this risky endeavor - one which has no exit strategy and no end game. It is a deeply heart-wrenching situation, and I am afraid the president is in over his head.''
Sen. Bob Smith, R-New Hampshire
Senior Member, Senate Armed Services Committee

"The policy is not working, it's counterproductive. It's like putting gasoline on a fire. We don't have anything to negotiate with. We are in a pickle.''
Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kansas
Armed Service Committee]]> Kosovo War nick https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1727 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1726 Sun, 04 Apr 1999 14:12:00 +0000
LONDON, Apr. 2 - Every once in a while, like a burst of sunshine bursting through angry clouds, a ray of truth pierces the blizzard of lies. Even in the western media. The Apr. 2 report by The (London) Independent, filed from Belgrade by its veteran reporter, Robert Fisk, is one such example. Here is an excerpt from it:

"On the second floor of the Serbian Clinical Centre in Belgrade are victims of the Balkan war who will never be mentioned in any NATO briefing. There's a 14-year-old boy with his head crushed, lying in a coma, eyes half-closed, a fat oxygen tube down his throat. There's a middle-aged farmer hit in the head by shrapnel and expected to die within a few hours. A little further down the
emergency ward is another boy - 13 this time - with his head swathed in bandages, moving in agony, his brain damaged and his right leg fractured by a falling building. They are NATO's victims.

Our victims, I suppose. Standing at their bedsides, the phrase "collateral damage" seems somehow obscene. Ivan Tanasijevic, the 14-year-old from the Drina river valley, was wounded in a NATO air raid on Loznica, and his father came to see him on Wednesday. "He asked if he could see his son," Dr Dragana Vujadinovic says. "I said, yes, but that Ivan was in a coma. The father sat by his bed here and cried. He is a farmer. Yes, I told him his son is very bad but that we wouldn't know what will happen for another few days. Yes, the boy is likely to die."



Dobrica Vukojicic is likely to join them soon. He was a farmer and appears to have been in his fields near Kraljevo when a NATO missile exploded a few meters from him. Pieces of metal smashed into his head and the blast caused what the doctors call "contralateral" damage to his brain, which started internal bleeding. He was brought to the medical centre on Wednesday night. Will he live, I ask Dr Mihaelo Mitrovic? He looks at me as if I am foolish to ask and raises his eyebrows. The man breathes noisily through his tubes, huffing and puffing as if aware of his fate. He will probably never awake.

Dr. Mitrovic, who refuses to talk politics, insists on pointing out those patients who are not war-wounded and those who - though they may not be direct victims of NATO's bombs - are victims of the war. Milan Lemajic, for example, lies unconscious in a bed at the end of the ward, his head as bloated as a football, his face a mass of bruises. "We think he tried to commit suicide after the first bombs," the doctor said. "He jumped from the fourth floor of his apartment block. Look at his X-rays." He holds out a sheet of negatives that shows just a big, dark mass. "His head is like a water-melon."



In one bed lies Dejan Lukic, 13, another victim from Loznica though this time with a birthplace of special horror. He was originally a Serb resident of the east Bosnian town of Srebrenica and was driven from his home by Muslim forces in 1992. It was those same Muslims who held Srebrenica as it filled up with Muslim refugees during the Bosnian war and it was their menfolk who were the victims of the 1995 atrocity when thousands were executed by Serb militiamen. By then, Dejan Lukic was 25 miles away in Loznica.

He was still there last week when NATO began raiding the eastern bank of the Drina. Doctors believe he was running for his life after a missile explosion when he was hit by concrete from a collapsing building. He never regained consciousness. But his eyes moved yesterday - a good sign, according to the doctors. He may live.

At least 22 war-wounded have been transferred to this Belgrade hospital alone since the start of the NATO bombardment, but others - physically untouched by shrapnel - have not survived their reaction to the bombing. Boris Grubicic was 18 and fell into depression when he heard that NATO and Serbia had gone to war. He had been "ethnically cleansed" from Croatia in 1995 with 170,000 other Serbs. Perhaps his experiences in Croatia three years ago had unbalanced his mind.

"He was brought in here with a fractured head and neck," Dr Vujadinovic said. "He had climbed to the top of the McDonald's restaurant in the center of Belgrade. That's five floors high. Then he threw himself off the top. He died here last night."

For the full article, check out The Independent's Apr. 2 issue at: http://www.independent.co.uk/]]> Kosovo War nick https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/4-4-99/#post-1726