Archive through April 15, 1999
Can you tell me if you got my fax?
For me Slovanian or my own language or Dutch it's all fine.Just waned to be clear again.
TO THE REST i am back after being harresed, and treatned by some fools.
Lets try and see what we can discuss about the future shall we?
We can blame eachother over and over, but frankly it's the same as what happens out there.But then on the net and behind our keyboards
So Kolina is finally admiting that she's also
Jim UK .
Who do you think you can fool? After all that
you've been writing , somebody has to belive that you are an angel all of a sudden.
Since you've arrived on this board , your only
aim was to pick up a fight , along the way adopting other names , repeating the same nonsens,
and doing absolutely everything to distract Maja
who's been the best in giving informations reasoning and arguments .
My advise to Maja would be to stay the way she is
with brain and heart we can only dream of having.
Will you translate your message or should I?
YOU STILL DID NOT ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION!!!!
From Maja: "Ne bova razpravljala o srbski televiziji, drzava je v vojni in ljudem se
kaze to, kar bo spodbujalo moralo in seveda tudi jezo. CNN pa se rad ponasa s svojo neodvisnostjo,
ki pa se pokaze kot zlagana v vsaki vojni, ki jo vodi Amerika."
In English: She don't want discus about Serbian TV because they are in war in they have to show things that would increase morale and anger by people. CNN behavior shows us it's independence wich we see as lies in every war USA collaborate.
to MAJA: JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION!! Is this so hard for you?
Tell me when you have some time to chat.
Jim UK, I wrote it in Slovenian cause it was something I wanted to clear with samo.
Samo, if you started translating it you could have done it much better and not simplify my words. That's how this war started. Let's simplipfy everything. We are gonna degrade, diminish and destroy Milosevic. Very simple. But... It looks liek Milosevic is not the only person living in Serbia. So before we degrade, diminish and destroy Milosevic we have to destroy the whole country and it's population. So far they managed to kill 300 people. They regret it, of course. As much as Milosevic regrets what is happening with Albanians. Note one thing, what NATO is destroying is peoples property and not Milosevic's.
What was the question anyway? About Serbian television. They can broadcast what they like. They are a country in war and they can talk about have they see it. And what they see is America and it's satellites throwing bombs at them, killing and destroying everything they see. And that is exactly what is happening. You don't really think they will broadcast those fake Clinton's and Albright's speaches about how they like Serbian people very much. Please, every Serbian has an opinion about that eventhough he has never seen a television set in his life. Bombing because they didn't except the Rambulliet ultimatum which would diminish their soverignty over their teritory.
I will send a letter to Clinton because I am very distrubed by the fact that constitutional rights
of Gypsies living in my country are being systematicaly violated. I will suggest they bomb as aswell while they are in the teritory.
Samo, name time and place.
Pentagon is showing it is lacking patience. Ken Bacon was asked what about Serbian civilians and said they should have thought about that before.
If Milosevic is a dictator how can you blame Serbian people saying they had a chance to choose.
It is very obvious that human war is possible until it starts disturbing victory. Then came Alksinac, Podujevo and the train. NATO is on the good way to be as bloody as Milosevic.
Does NATO have a limitation? Yes it does, this operation has to sucessfully end by 23rd of April, NATO's 50th anniversary. America knows it is in deep •••• and none of three goals it set to achive were flushed down the drain. Save Albanians. No. Diminish Milosevic's power. No. Prevent the crisis in the region. No. Total failure. They can't achive anything, they can only destroy.
Today the newest NATO goals were broadcasted on CNN and they are in this order:
2. HELP REFUGEES
3. GAIN PUBLIC SUPPORT ( that would mean lie, lie and lie even more, whatever it takes, we need to demonize Serbs and bomb them into oblivion ).
Sooner you realize there is nothing human about this war, the easier will your realization be.
You appear extremely knowledgable on the Kosovo crisis and the ensuing war.
Given any amount of assistance in any form whatsoever, how would you resolve the crisis?
AND OTHER SERB-LOVERS
Before you start celebrating your elation
on the accidental bombing by NATO of
let's remember one thing.
You never admitted to having any
sympathy, or feel any compassion
for the plight of these people.
Maja even went so far as to admit
that he/she HATES them.
HATE ! Not even ANGER - but HATE.
You don't care for them
so don't go using them now
don't go cry over their dead bodies
for YOUR PROPAGANDA PURPOSES.
Alas - you are known HYPOCRATES.
So we'll see THESE dead Albanians,
but not the 60.000 that SERBS killed.
(SOON WE WILL SEE THEM TOO AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP IT - AS TIME WILL TELL!)
About the 60.000 Kosovars that SERBS killed
This number is a LOW estimate
If every Kosovar family has 6 members (as you claim)
And there are 600/m. refugees,
and each has lost ONE member
of their nuclear family
Then we can expect to find
approx 100,000 bodies
burried in mass graves.
Take more or less 60,000
it is a VERY GOOD ESTIMATE.
Of course, we can NOT YET confirm this number
because not even the International Red Cross,
Medicenes Sans Frontier nor
Amnesty International are allowed into
the villages that YOU BURNED !
But soon you will (ofcourse) allow EVERYBODY
to go see the Kosovar civilians
that NATO accidentaly shot.
In doing so you emphasize the fact
that to you the only valuable Kosovar Albanian
is a dead one.
This makes me even more ANGRY.
I don't hate - I just get angry.
Why not take the journalists to the
villages you burned and the mass graves
you are responsible for?
more and more truth comes out every day.The Yugo forces are murderous barbarians and brainwashed to boot. Do you know that one of their favorite arguments against genocide is that the usa killed ALL the indians? We gave them worthless land and they struck oil!.They take our $ in their casinos every day! Some native americans please tell them we did not kill you all like they are doing the albanians.
I AM NOT JIM OR WHATEVER YOU FANTASICE IAM.
YES I DID CHANGE MY NICKNAME NOW FINALY AFTER A TRACK DOWN AND A SERIOUS TREATH>I START TO WONDER IF YOUR BRAINLESS??????
STOP PICKING ON ME YOU THINK THE STORIES I SHARED WHERE FOR MY ENJOYMENT----WRONG!!!!
I JUST WANTED TO BE OPEN AND HONEST APPEARENTLY IT IS SOMETHING YOU NEVER HEARD OF!!!!!
KOLINA NEW NICK EMINA
PS SEE ATLEAST I AM HONEST ENOUGH TO TELL WHEN I CHANGE MY NAME. NOT THAT YOU CARE IALMOST START TO BE SO ANGRY THAT I HOPE SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN TO YOU ONE DAY !.
Jack London, whatever you might think of me I do not celebrate death. I have written many times about how I think these should be solved. Bombs are not the solution. The ones that are throwing them know that by one. And would stop throwing them if they could. Now there is much more at stake than lives.
Maja You still DID NOT answer my question.
TELL ME WHAT DO YOU THINK WHY THEY ARE NOT SHOWING PICTURES FROM REFUGEES!!!!!!!??????
You claim, Serbian TV can show what ever they like and CNN should broadcast the same lies (stupid).
But you know what, you are right. CNN and all other media does broadcast what ever they could find on Serbian TV. Watching those pictures people are laughing to stupid lies and the way they are doing. They (SERBIAN TV) also have to change it's speakers everyday. In the last 21 days I've seen more than 30 speakers on Serbian News. I wonder why? It seem's that there are just two or three speakers on 'Milosevic brainwashing-frequency' staying on show....
Check tomorrow for time and place....(chat)
I did not simplify your words Maja.
Emina or anyone else please translate message from Maja. People should see I do not lie.
Maja, the Serbs need no demonization. They are doing quite well by themselves. I noticed that they seem to be having a little trouble staying out of Albania. Are they next? Kosova won't be enough for Malosvic. He won't stop until he is stopped and the time to stop him is now!
PS. Is this the same Maja who told me that the Kosovars started this and that they deserved to die???
Not true. CNN is selecting what it shows very closely. It can show refugees for an hour, but dead Serbian civilians for just few seconds. The only person pthat is remotly being objctive is Brent Satler reporting from Belgrade. And Alexio Vinci reporting for Belgrade.
Serbian television does show refugess, not often though. From what I have been able to see on BBC that did interviews on Belgrade streets people have all seen them. But like one man said: I am a human being. But when my children are being bombed I can not feel any sympathy for them. There is one difference. Television Serbia is a national television, showing what nation is thinking. CNN prouds itself for being international television ( you know, you are watching CNN international ) and therefor should not be Clinton and Blair slave.
Bob, Serbs would not want Albania if you would serve it to them on the plate. They have no planes invading it. But they will fight on the border as long as KLA members want to illegaly enter Yugoslavia armed to the teeth. Don't worry. Bob, Albanians won't get the Great Albania. But what they have will stay theirs.
FOR YUGOSLAVIA WORK FOR PEACE READY FOR WAR!
N.A.T.O and U.C.K FASCIST AND TERRORIST NO PASSERAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
U.N. Rights Body Condemns Serb Abuses in Kosovo
Russia the only country to vote against resolution
GENEVA, Apr. 14, 1999 -- (Reuters) The United Nations' main human rights body on Tuesday condemned Serbian authorities for ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and demanded a halt to killings and expulsions.
The resolution, presented by Pakistan on behalf of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) and a host of Western countries including the United States, was overwhelmingly approved by the 53-member state body. Forty-four countries voted in favor of the text, with only Russia voting against it, while six countries including China abstained and two were absent during the public vote.
"I declare the text adopted," Ireland's ambassador Anne Anderson, who chairs the U.N. Commission on Human Rights, said.
Among those voting in favor were the United States and its NATO allies, Britain, France, Italy and Germany. But Russia, a Serb ally, dismissed the Islamic resolution as a "classic example of a unilateral, anti-Serb approach."
Russia's delegation criticized the text for failing to even mention the Kosovo Liberation Army and its "terrorist methods". "If adopted, it will certainly be used for propaganda coverage for further bombing of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia," Russia's delegate said during the hour-long debate. The Russian delegation has tabled its own resolution on Kosovo which calls for a halt to the fighting while reaffirming the territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. The forum winds up its annual six-week session on April 30.
Before the vote, Pakistan's envoy Munir Akram took the floor to call on the U.N. body to react to the "human rights tragedy." "The Kosovo crisis is an essential test of the ability of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights to respond to the tragedy when there are premeditated, systematic, massive human rights violations under way," he said. By adopting the resolution, the Commission would send a clear message to future violators that "use of state power to repress communities would not be tolerated," Akram added.
China's delegate declared: "The issue of Kosovo is the internal affair of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and should be resolved on the basis of respecting sovereignty, territorial integrity of the FRY and through political dialogue while safeguarding the legitimate interests of all ethnic groups in the Kosovo region." South Africa's envoy said the text was "unbalanced and does not reflect adequately the situation on the ground."
The Islamic resolution "condemns strongly the widespread and systematic practice of ethnic cleansing being perpetrated by the Belgrade and Serbian authorities against the Kosovars." It also condemns "the massive military operations launched by the Serbian authorities against the unarmed civilians in Kosovo, resulting in large-scale killings, systematic and planned massacres, the destruction of homes and property, forced mass exoduses to neighboring countries..."
To win European backing, the initial Islamic draft text was watered down during private negotiations, diplomats said. Language condemning the "genocide of Kosovars" was removed, they said, as was a specific call to bring Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to international criminal justice.
The Islamic text called for the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia to bring to justice the perpetrators of war crimes, "in particular those responsible for acts of ethnic cleansing and identity elimination in Kosovo." ( (c) 1999 Reuters