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Yes, the Mad Madeleine Clone article is for real. It was on the Yahoo News site and a few other sites. There are some really crazy people who work for the US State Dept. and a lot of drunks, too!!

Zoja:

Thanks for the tips on Dani and Svijet. I've been looking for Bosnian sites with uncensored information and open forums and message boards. Do you know of any? All I can find are "official" web sites with "official" statements. Same for most of the former Yugoslav republics. I don't mean to offend anyone, but sites I've found that have the most open and lively discussions, forums, and message boards are all Serbian. Any suggestions?

tommygunns]]> Kosovo War tommygunns https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4864 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4863 Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:01:00 +0000
No need to become a house boy, babe. You are your own master.
Zoja]]> Kosovo War zoja https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4863 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4862 Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:27:00 +0000 if that 'clone'/song article is for real...
no wonder albright has been scorned...
please jack london, let me come be your house boy or something...]]> Kosovo War L'menexe https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4862 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4861 Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:05:00 +0000
SERBIAN MINISTER ADMITS LOSS OF KOSOVA. Serbian Deputy
Prime Minister Ratko Markovic said that the June peace
agreement meant that "Kosova was taken from Serbia," the
Belgrade weekly "NIN" reported on 29 July. He compared
Serbia's agreement on the loss of the province to the
decision of an injured person to have a leg or arm
amputated in order to save his life. Observers note this
is the first time that a top-ranking Belgrade official
has publicly admitted that Serbia lost Kosova as a
result of the recent conflict. Officials generally claim
that Serbia won the war because Kosova legally remains
part of Serbia and because the administration there is
in the hands of the UN, not of NATO or the UCK.

Emina]]> Kosovo War emina https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4861 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4860 Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:44:00 +0000
I don't know about you, but i as a Bosnian could easaly say "i don't trust serbs" With that also meaning all there resources also the independant once where journalist get killed over Thing is i don't. You know why......., cause thats exactly where the hate begins. If we wan't the world to be a better place we first must learn to trust.Trust ourselves, trust eachother, and learn to see that were all humans nothing more nothing less.
I don't trust sources that come directly from the coverment either, but i look for independant sources.Everything i can get my hands on and for a big part my ears meaning listen what people inside have to say.Inside meaning: Bosnia,Serbia,Croatia as my sources ly there.
About the demonstrations going on.Its not a bunch of shouters if you would ever been in one in either Serbia or Bosnia you would know that what these people do is certainly NOT without risk.
For oppressed people its always courage to let your voice be heard.No matter where you live.

Emina]]> Kosovo War emina https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/3/#post-4860 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4859 Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:43:00 +0000 OPPOSITION DRAFTS STABILITY PLAN FOR SERBIA. Some 17
economists, opposition leaders, intellectuals, and
representatives of the Serbian Orthodox Church announced
in Belgrade on 27 July that they have drafted a
stability plan for Serbia, Reuters reported. The text
calls for a package of political and economic reforms.
The first step would be to set up a transitional
government with a one-year mandate to create the legal
and political conditions for free and democratic
elections. A spokesman for the group stressed that
Serbia must avoid what he called a "Bucharest scenario,"
a reference to the violent overthrow of Romanian
dictator Nicolae Ceausescu in December 1989.]]> Kosovo War zoja https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4859 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4858 Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:04:00 +0000
I would advise you to surf the Net and find some opposititon sites. For someone with such strong arguments your lack of knowledge surprises me.

First of all, there are some Bosnian sources you can trust. One of which is the magazine DANI, meaning DAYS in Bosnian. Dani is an independant magazine, having kept its independance throughout all the years of war. It still has a difficult existance, because the not yet democratic govenrment is breathing in their necks, but they manage, and their reports are good quality and accurate.

http:www.bhdani.com/

Same story goes for the magazine called Svijet, World, which is a bit more moderate of tone, but still very independant and accurate.

http://www.svijet.com.

For the rest the opposition IS doing far more than shouting in demonstrations for Slob Milo to go. But that's behind the surface. Oppsosition in Serbia can still kill you, you know, so most of the 'real' work is harder to spot. Besides that, US and European popular media have the tendencey only to show demonstrations. The rest doesn't make a nice enough picture. However, if you look a bit harder, you will get to know.

Furtheromre it would be arrogant to dimiss the demonstrators as shouters. Holding demonstrations, even attending demonstrations in the fringes can also get you in big trouble. Even if all they would shout was 'Slob go'. For even shouting just that can get you killed or tortured or both. The fact that the police does not really fight the demonstrations is nor relevant. They, but more the army is watching, registering the participants, but, affraid for now, because the eyes of the world are on Serbia. However, as soon as they get the chance, they will go for it.

Meaning demonstrating is a much an act of courage in Serbia than making political plans.

Zoja]]> Kosovo War zoja https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4858 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4857 Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:43:00 +0000
It was bad enough for us (USA) to have Clinton as president, now we have a hooker for secretary of state???????

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Yahoo! News Wednesday July 28 10:26AM EDT

Albright Sends 'Clone' To Sing

By Carol Giacomo

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - After spirited performances two years running, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright again produced the unexpected for a closing dinner skit at an Asian leaders conference - a drag clone of herself.

Albright actually had to leave Singapore early for Rome so she could visit Kosovo Thursday and Bosnia Friday for a summit on Balkans stability.

So Tuesday night's U.S. musical review at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) annual dinner featured a stand-in: Assistant Secretary of Defense Kurt Campbell.

He was dressed as Albright singing a spoof called "Lone Superpower'' to the tune of an old American classic, "Home on the Range.''

In a taped video message that opened the skit, Albright apologized for not being there herself.

But she said "American technology can achieve miracles ... Before leaving Singapore, I had myself cloned. And I have left behind Madeleine II... who combines the modesty of (ex-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger with the shyness of Madonna - me.''

Campbell, posing as Albright and wearing clothes similar to hers, proceeded to playfully exult about American hegemony.

Hegemony is something the United States is often faulted for in the post-Cold War era, including an unexpected attack on this very point Tuesday by the Chinese foreign minister during the formal (and serious) part of the ASEAN conference.

"Lone, lone superpower/From Pristina to Port Au Prince Haiti,'' reads one verse of the song, in which Campbell was supported by a chorus of other U.S. officials.

"Some countries complain/We feel their pain/But we're sticking with hegemony.''

As always with the performances during Albright's tenure, the Americans make fun of almost everyone - themselves included - and the verses often contain more than a grain of truth.

Some other verses:

"Oh, give me a home/Where the peacekeepers roam
"And the tariffs are lowered each day
"Where the people can vote/And the currencies float
"And the countries all do what we say ''I've met for some time/With the sheriff from China
"Our positions they sometimes conflict
"But we don't come to blows/As our soccer team knows
"We resolve things with penalty kicks''
"To my old friends in Asia/From Japan to Malaysia
"I dedicate this cowgirl song
"And to old North Korea/We really don't fear ya'
"Cause your missile is called the No Dong''

For many years, the U.S. skit at the dinner was decidedly uninspired. But In 1997 when she became secretary of state, Albright infused originality into the task, winning rave reviews for a performance based on the musical "Evita.''

In 1998 she teamed up with then-Russian Foreign Minister Yevgeny Primakov for a spoof on the musical "West Side Story'' re-named "East-West Story.''

U.S. officials briefly considered doing something with the Chinese this year but given the state of their relations, neither side seemed ready for that.]]> Kosovo War tommyx https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4857 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4856 Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:09:00 +0000 liberation of Kosovo...", "... Kosovo
was liberated...", etc., - "liberated" from whom? The Serbian territory liberated of Serbs?Another way of "keeping" Serbs from fleeing Kosovo - denying them convoy protection under some pretext, thus keeping them ghettoed and... in Kosovo. (For statistical theatre.) Warsaw.Tachi said some BS about
completion of disarmament - that kept me amused for a half day. A good stage performance of handing over obsolete or broken weaponry.Miss Piggy paid a visit, and that amused me too:
she was brilliant in her politically irresponsible speech. Her car got stoned by Serbs.]]> Kosovo War kissie https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4856 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4855 Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:06:00 +0000 Zoja

What changes? More Gigs of bandwidth for B-whatever (all's good, if not B52)? Flexibility
with Chernogoriya?..., ... . But how does that opposition treat Kosovo?Does that opposition say "We lost it, forget it all"?How does the opposition treat the
territorial issue of Kosovo?How does the opposition treat the defence and border issue of Kosovo?How does the opposition treat the Groatian and Bosnian fallout?It's kind of tough to treat these issues as passing wind, -
shouting about Mr. Milo, Gigs and "democracy" is easier and populistic. (So far, I haven't heard of any constructive program from any opposition.)

I don't trust Bosnian sources.]]> Kosovo War kissie https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-july-31-1999/paged/2/#post-4855