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I'm confused, why are you bringing me into your dialogs?

Does you medical insurance include mental health?]]> Kosovo War hairymary https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24706 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24705 Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:20:00 +0000
I'm confused, why are you bringing me into your dialogs?

Does you medical insurance include mental health?]]> Kosovo War hairymary https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24705 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24704 Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:01:00 +0000 assuming you're who i _think_ you are, take that
matter up w/our mutual friend, okay?

either way, regarding your threats,
listen carefully:

GET BENT]]> Kosovo War L'menexe https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24704 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24703 Thu, 01 Jun 2000 00:27:00 +0000
Serbs are being systematically exterminated in Kosovo

By: Mary Mostert, Analyst, Original Sources, www.originalsources.com

May 30, 2000

As usual, it was not even reported in the American media, but in the Serbian Press the picture
showing dead bodies, including the body of a four year old Serbian child, being placed in body bags
was titled: "Serbs are being systematically exterminated in Kosovo".

Is it just Serb melodrama, or is there, perhaps, a concern that the American media is just
systematically ignoring during this election year? Would it be just too painful for Al Gore’s candidacy
to point out that exterminating Serbs is the major Foreign Policy legacy of the Clinton-Gore era?

As it turns out neither NATO nor the United Nations appears to be able to keep their Albanian allies
from killing United Nations employees – if they happen to be Serbs. While I did not see the report
anywhere else, the United Nations website reported United Nations Secretary Kofi Annan’s message
to the family members of a Serb UN staff member, Petar Topoljski, as "a dark day for Kosovo."

There have been no arrests, and even if there were, of course, there is no real judicial system in
Kosovo, one year after the so-called KFOR victory over Slobodan Milosevic. If there were arrests,
according to a report of a United Nations investigation headed by Ambassador Anwarul Karim
Chowdhury of Bangladesh on the United Nations own website security in Kosovo is still a "major and
continuing challenge." Even when arrested, killers are quickly freed by the KLA controlled "civil
government" and judicial system of Kosovo. Ambassador Chowdhury said that some violent
incidents during the mission made the group "comprehend better the reality of the situation."

One year into the United Nations and KFOR control over Kosovo the Ambassador noted that while
the "international community had invested heavily in Kosovo and could not afford to fail" there was
an urgent need to address "ongoing staff shortages for both civil administration and police" which
"constrained UN operations." Introducing the mission's report, Ambassador Anwarul Karim
Chowdhury of Bangladesh, said the Council "could not have envisaged" the enormity of the UN's
tasks in Kosovo when it adopted resolution 1244 (1999), which sets out the tasks for the UN Interim
Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK).

The fact of the matter is that KFOR and UNMIK actually HAVE allowed the "systematic
extermination" of Serbs in Kosovo. The number of Serbs in the area of Gnjilane has shrunk from
12,000 to 800 since the end of the war in June of 1999 according to the Security Council
delegation’s report. Gnjilane is under the auspices of the U.S. military, sent by Clinton without
Congressional approval, and was immediately occupied by the US Marines after the bombing was
halted. The movement of those few Serbs who remain is possible only with an escort of
international peacekeepers or police, according to UNMIK.

What that indicates is that the situation is far worse now than when the bombing stopped. Last
June I received an e-mail from a Marine stationed with the KFOR troops in the area of Gnjilane. The
first e-mail reported that the Albanians were burning down the homes of the Serbs, who had fled
when it became obvious to them that there would be no security for them.

His second e-mail reported:

Dear Mary,

Took a security patrol out a couple of days ago. Didn't run across any bad guys. The little
village we went through was interesting. Through an interpreter, I found out that it had
been occupied by regular VJ (Yugolsavian) troops until a couple of weeks ago. The old man
I spoke with said that the Serb troops didn't steal or destroy anything in the village and left
everything as they had found it. Asked him about mines and he said that they removed all
of them and took them with them when they left. Obviously very disciplined regular army
troops.

The people in the village were ethnic Albanian but didn't seem to harbor a lot of
resentment toward the Serbs, I suppose having the regular VJ in their village kept the MUP
and paramilitary away. The old man ended up guiding us through the fields and trails in the
area. (Good patrol tip, walk only where the locals walk.) He also went into his house and
gave us some smoked sausage, tomatoes, bread, and peppers.

Very poor people, so this really meant a lot. We've had nothing but MREs for three weeks so
the feast we had when we returned to our lines was the highlight of the day. Anyhow, this
was just one small village and in no way can it be construed to represent what is going on
or happened in the rest of the country. Just some simple farmers who would be glad just to
be left alone to work the soil and live their lives.

Mostly old folks, women, and children. And the little ones just about broke my heart. They
have a healthy fear of men with guns. Ain't a Marine here doesn't have a soft spot for the
kids. This mess over here isn't their fault. It's a side of this hell hole that isn't glamorous
enough to make the evening news.

So, what, do you suppose, caused these simple Albanian farmers who had no bad experiences with
the Serb army, to drive out 99.4% of their Serb neighbors, AFTER the Americans arrived to protect
them? And, why has the Clinton Administration not risen up in arms over this "genocide" of Serbs?

It was only one year ago that every Clinton spokesman was talking about stopping the "genocide"
of Albanians. Undersecretary of State James Rubin said on CNN March 29, 1999, that the Serbs
were " ‘committing genocide’ by driving Albanians out of their homes and telling them to leave the
province, when there was a total of 77,000 Albanian refugees after 6 days of bombing. The Albanian
population is said to have been 1,800,000 and the Serb population of Kosovo 200,000. However, at
the borders on March 30, 1999, CNN reported a ‘trickle’ of refugees - guessing that the Albanians
were "too terrified to leave their homes."

If 4% of the Ethnic Albanians leaving Kosovo during the first week of being bombed is "genocide"
that needed to be stopped by 79 days of bombing and the expenditure of, to date, $21 billion of
American Tax funds, what is the appropriate response of 99.4% of the Serbs being either killed or
driven out of Gniljane while under American military occupation? Not surprisingly, the Serbs believe
genocide is the goal of the Clinton administration.

That leaves us Americans with two choices: Either Clinton was lying about the Serbs committing
genocide when 4% of the Albanians had fled the province in late March 1999 or he and the U.S.
media are covering up a massive genocide against the Serbs who have either been killed or have
fled Gniljane while it’s been under American military "protection."

After that statement by James Rubin was made, when United Nations reported that 77,000
Albanians, 4% of the Ethnic Albanian population were refugees from Kosovo, that "genocide" was
used to justify the continued bombing of Yugoslavia for an additional two and a half months.

Today, only 6% of the ethnic Serbs in American occupied Gnjilane remain, and the situation is not
even MENTIONED on CNN.

So, using James Rubin’s definition of "genocide" when a mere 4% of the ethnic Albanian population
had fled Kosovo, the Serbs certainly are on solid semantic ground in accusing Bill Clinton of
genocide against the Serbs when 96.4% of the ethnic Serb population has been driven out of the
American protected section of Gnjilane.

Clinton has a unique legacy he can point to. He can rightfully claim to be the first American
president, at least since Andrew Jackson did nothing while the Cherokees were driven en-masse
out of Georgia, to preside over a genocide of a minority group.

To comment: mmostert@originalsources.com]]> Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24703 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24702 Thu, 01 Jun 2000 00:25:00 +0000
"Although We Were from Different Religions, We were United as Brothers Kneeling to Give
Thanks for my Rescue

by: Mary Mostert, Analyst, Original Sources (www.originalsources.com)

May 29, 2000

For more than 50 years Major Richard L. Felman, one of 500 American Airmen who were shot down
in World War II over Yugoslavia and whose lives were saved by the Serb underground, tried for more
than fifty years to tell the American people the truth about the Serbs. When President Clinton began
the 78 days of bombing of the Serbian people, Major Felman wrote an open letter to the soldiers
called to destroy the Serbs.

Had America listened, they would have known in the Spring of 1999 that there was something very
wrong about what was happening over Yugoslavia at that time. Increasingly, the real story is
emerging, but it is too little, and too late. The damage has already taken place - not only in the
deaths of thousands men, women and children and the destruction of many civilian targets -
schools, churches, hospitals, heating and electric plants, but in the loss of the American ideal of
justice, fairness and honor. America chose to follow a president impeached for lying to a grand jury,
rather than to listen to an honorable war veteran who tried to tell them their president was also
lying about Serbs.

Major Felman’s voice has been silenced. He died last fall. Here is the letter he wrote to the American
people a few days after the bombing of Yugoslavia started:

"We Found Out The Truth About the Serbs...When We Were Shot Down"

World War II Rescued American Airmen Defends Serbs

An Open Letter To Our Troops In The Former Yugoslavia From Over 500 MlAs Saved By The
Serbian People During WWII

By: Richard L. Felman Major USAF (Ret)

President National Committee of American Airmen Rescued by General Mlhailovich, Inc.
P.O. Box 17478,
Tuscon, Arizona 85731

During World War II, we were in the Army Air Corps list as "Missing in Action" in the very
same area you are now serving. If we may, we would like to relay to you a frank,
soldier-to-soldier message about our personal experience while there - something which
politicians who sent you there have not told you and something which you have not read or
seen in the Anti-Serb media.

In 1944, the members of our committee were flying bombing missions out of Italy over
Southern Europe. During that time over 500 of us were shot down over enemy-occupied
Yugoslavia and saved from certain death by the Serbian people. Ours was the greatest
rescue of American lives from behind enemy lines in history but has been kept under wraps
all these years because of pressure from foreign sources.

While we were there, those of us who were wounded were given whatever medical
supplies they had even at the deprivation of their own troops. If there was one piece of
bread in the house, or one egg, it went to the American airmen while the Serb went hungry.
If there was one bed or one blanket, it went to us while the Serb slept on the bare ground.
No risk of sacrifice was too great to insure our safety and well being. One experience
which is forever seared in my memory is the time a village with 200 women and children
was burned to the ground by the Germans because the Serbs would not tell them where
they were hiding us. To this day, I can smell the terrible stench of their burning flesh. One
does not forget such things.

The most incredible part of our rescue was that before each mission, our bomber crews
were briefed by the highest levels of American intelligence that if shot down over
Yugoslavia, we were to stay away from the Serbian people as they were collaborating with
the Germans and "cutting off the ears of American airmen" before turning them over. Only
after we were shot down did we find out the amazing thoroughness with which the truth
about the Serbs was being distorted.

Further compounding this deception is the fact that while the Serbs were our allies in
WWII, Croatians and Muslims (who we are favoring today) were allies of the Nazis, shooting
at us and responsible for killing many of our fellow American fliers. In view of the lies we
were told about the Serbs during World War II, we could not help but wonder if our foreign
policy there today is the same anti-Serb bias we encountered 52 years ago. Could our
career diplomats sacrifice former friends and reward former enemies in the name of
political expediency???... Could it be because in the world community there are over one
billion Muslims and only 9 million Serbian Orthodox Christians with the same proportionate
power in the global economy??? Could it be because the Serbs have no oil wells and no
unlimited oil money?

Could it be because the Croatians and Muslims outspend the Serbs 50 to one on lobbyists,
media firms and campaign contributions??? ... Could this be why, "atrocities" are
manufactured to make the Serbs look bad while gaining sympathy for their opponents???...
Could this be why the Serbs are branded "aggressors" in land they have lived on for over
600 years???... Could our policy have something to do with the fact there are 540 members
of Congress, none of whom are Orthodox Christians???... Could the State Department's
bitter bias, against General Draza Mihailovich, the anti-Communist Guerrilla leader who
saved us, be based on the fact he was a Serb???

Could these be the reasons the State Department has covered up the truth of our rescue
all these years and opposed our petition to express gratitude for saving over 500 American
lives (a petition which is supported by the 8 million veterans of the American Legion, the
Veterans of Foreign Wars and the Air Force Association and which has been approved by
the United States Senate.)???... Could it be these are the reasons the Chairman of the
House Foreign Affairs Committee has also denied our petition by saying to us here are
"ethnic groups in Yugoslavia" who oppose it???...

Are we mad???... You can bet your next month's paycheck that we are mad! We did not
leave our families, risk our lives and watch our buddies get their arms, legs and heads
blown off so that "ethnic groups in Yugoslavia" could tell us what we could or could not do
in our own country.

Now that the spring thaw has set in, temperatures and tempers will start to rise in the
volatile area you now find yourselves. All we ask is that in your dealings with the local
people you be made aware of the eyewitness experience of your fellow comrades-in-arms.
By speaking out now we have nothing to gain except a burning moral passion to tell the
truth, a sworn duty to protect our national honor, a patriotic desire to express heart felt
gratitude to those on foreign soil who save American lives while they are fighting in
defense of our glorious country.

Now that you have been sent to foreign soil and asked to risk your lives we feel you should
know the truth and not be "suckered in" by the rhetoric of highly paid public relations firms,
foreign lobbyists and self-serving politicians who know absolutely nothing of the region's
history.

We might also add that had it not been for the Serbian people, Air Force General Donald J.
Smith, our chairman and one our rescued airmen, would not have survived the war and
been able to dedicate 40 years of honorable service to his country.

Had it not been for the Serbian people, technical Sgt. Curtis "Bud" Diles, another of our
airmen, would not be alive today in Dayton, Ohio, enjoying retirement with his 4 children
and 12 grandchildren... There are hundreds of us with stories just like those.

Some of the greatest testimony to the many sacrifices made on our behalf us the many
thousands of American children who are alive today solely because the Serbian people
saved over 500 of their grandfathers during World War II. Some of them could very well be
serving with you today in Bosnia.

(I was one of 3 rescued American airmen who returned last year to the former Yugoslavia
to commemorate the 50th anniversary of victory in Europe with the people who saved us
and to visit the cow pasture that served as a landing strip from which we were rescued.
The most moving experience of our sentimental trip was being cheered by over 50,000
Serbs who gathered at a mountain top to welcome us and who kept chanting "USA, USA").

As American military men, we have a proud tradition of "duty, honor and country" to uphold
and a fierce sense of loyalty to those with whom we fought side by side in combat. We
never forget their kindness nor do we return their battlefield sacrifices for us by bombing
their women and children.

The Serbian people helped us when we were desperate and in trouble. Now that the
situation is reversed we can do no less.

Please keep these untarnished truths in mind as you now serve our country and all it
stands for, and may God bless you all as we pray for your safe return.

Well, we didn’t help the Serbian people. We’ve done everything we could to hurt them and we helped
the Kosovo Liberation Army, a major European drug cartel. The Serbian people no longer expect
justice and honor from the Americans.

As we mourn the losses of Americans who died in defending this great land, let us also mourn the
loss of Major Felman who tried, unsuccessfully, to defend the honor of America against an onslaught
of lies that justified destroying those who risked their lives to save over 500 American Airmen in
World War II.]]> Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/3/#post-24702 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24701 Wed, 31 May 2000 22:03:00 +0000 what was said by me is indeed extreme for this board. However UNCOOL is also conidered a numerous barking that I happen to see on this board.
I want you to refrain from using orders towards me. This is the ONLY warning I am giving you. You know what will happen otherwise, err, 'comrade'.]]> Kosovo War comrade https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24701 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24700 Wed, 31 May 2000 07:44:00 +0000 this was uncool and pointless....straight out of
AllamFAKE's handbook.

take it to the Russ page.]]> Kosovo War L'menexe https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24700 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24699 Tue, 30 May 2000 20:37:00 +0000 """"Did you read any more of the site I posted- regarding reforms of the UN? Or do you only read what you want to hear? "

I do read, but have nothing to say to YOU about it. """

LOOKS LIKE NO ONE ELSE EVEN WANTS TO BOTHER TALKING TO YOU. YOU SHOULD THANK KIM FOR BEING SO PATIENT WITH YO RUDE, RUDE REMARKS. WANT SOME SLAPPING FROM ME, DEAR? I CAN PROVIDE.]]> Kosovo War yourbrother https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24699 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24698 Tue, 30 May 2000 20:32:00 +0000 take a chill-pill, dear, you are aneed of it, indeed.]]> Kosovo War danielasbiggerbrother https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24698 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24697 Mon, 29 May 2000 21:17:00 +0000 Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-1-2000/paged/2/#post-24697