THE NEW YORK TIMES

June 19, 1999

THE ATROCITIES

Growing Signs That Serbs Removed Dead at Mass Graves

By DAVID ROHDE

IZBICA, Kosovo -- The blankets that villagers say they wrapped
the bodies in before burial lie on top of the earth, empty.
Alongside dozens of recently dug-up graves lie clusters of
discarded surgical gloves.

Three months after American spy satellites identified this as one of
the largest sites of mass burials in Kosovo, the bodies of the victims
of a mass execution are gone, villagers said today. They said
Yugoslav forces fought their way into the village two weeks ago,
spent two days unearthing the bodies, said to number 119, and
trucked them off.

The tampering was on June 2 and 3, the villagers said, five days
after President Slobodan Milosevic had been indicted for war crimes
by the war crimes tribunal for the former Yugoslavia. One of the
seven mass executions cited in the indictment is one that villagers
say occurred here on March 28, taking the lives of scores of
civilians.

A tribunal official said Friday night that the possible disappearance
of the bodies would not weaken the case against Milosevic. "It's
extremely rare, if not impossible, to remove all traces of a crime
having been committed," the official said.

In April, the Clinton Administration released satellite photos that
showed rows of more than 100 freshly dug graves in Izbica that they
said corroborated refugees' accounts of a mass killing. Last month,
a videotape smuggled out by the Kosovo Liberation Army showed
the bodies of dozens of ethnic Albanians strewn across a field here.

Since then, the Administration has released spy photos that it said
showed tampering with the graves. On the ground Friday, there was
ample evidence to support that contention. What appeared to have
been two neat rows of graves now consists of mounds of freshly
turned earth, with clothes spread across them. The soil above the
individual graves had sunk several feet, suggesting that something
inside the graves may have been removed.

The first members of a team of investigators sent here by the
International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia arrived
today, according to a spokesman for the tribunal, James Landale.
The team, he added, will begin mapping and photographing sites for
exhumations on Saturday.

To Danielllla

Just read this piece of heroism committed by Serb forces commanded by Slobodan (I don't deserve that name) Milosevic. Probably the ninety year old man, so brutally killed was a fierce UCK fighter, right???

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June 18, 1999

ATROCITIES

Down Each Path, Another Grave,
Another Story of War's Carnage

By JOHN KIFNER

QYSHK, Yugoslavia -- Ask the farmers just starting to plow the
fields far off the two-lane paved road if there are any mass
graves around, and they just wave you on ahead.

A mile or so farther on, a small knot of Albanian
villagers is gathered tearfully around two mounds of dirt
decorated with tributes to the dead, including a few
strands of what look like tinselly Christmas garlands.

And so it went for a little over two hours of wandering this
afternoon in three small villages about 10 miles east
of the city of Pec.

Anyone you asked would lead you to graves or places
where Kosovo Albanian civilians had been killed by Serbs.

To all appearances, the villages were not strongholds of the rebel
Albanian force, the Kosovo Liberation Army, and did not seem to
have been involved in any fighting. There were no returning
victorious rebels or Albanian flags in sight; on the contrary, the men
spoke of hiding in the woods and mountains and shifting their hiding
places depending on where the shooting was coming from.

The accounts in this tiny corner of Kosovo -- and others emerging
as Kosovo Albanians return to their homes and journalists and
human rights workers begin to range through the shattered province
-- suggest that the death toll may be even greater than had
previously been known.

At the two grave mounds, Ajet Gashi, 30, said Thursday, "Here are
35 people buried. Most of them were burned in their houses. We
took what was left of the people and put them in plastic bags, so
there are 33 people here, and in the other grave two people who
were not burned."

He added, "The women buried them, because the men were all
hiding in the woods."

Another villager offered a crumpled piece of paper listing the names
of all the dead. Gashi motioned the way to the building where
Serbian forces had lined up the men and shot them dead when they
said they had no more money to give the Serbs. The Serbs then set
the farmhouse on fire with the men in it, the villagers said.

Along the way the villagers pointed out where the rich man of the
village had been told by the Serbs to stand in a wooden outhouse,
assuring him he would be safe there. Then they killed him in the
privy, the bullet holes ripping through the thin pine door, the villagers
said.

In Pec, where the Serbs had destroyed the Old Town marketplace,
burned the mosque and torched the shops, save a handful that
displayed Serbian Orthodox icons, the local rebel commander,
Ethem Ceku, said, "Our young fighters are coming from the districts
informing us of massive graves in almost every village where
Albanians live."

Handed a map, he rattled off a half-dozen names of villages where
he had heard of civilian mass graves.

The road east out of town, past the Italian NATO peacekeepers and
the last, ragged rebel checkpoint, seemed deserted, the large brick
houses nearby empty, the biggest ones burned.

Shaban Kastrati, 50, was standing near some parked aid trucks
from the International Mercy Corps at the village of Zahaq.

Yes, he said, he had buried 4 people himself and 24 people had
been killed nearby.

He piled into a car and pointed the way down a dirt path to a
farmhouse. From there, it was a trek over a board bridging a creek
and through some woods. He pointed out the lashed-together poles
that, when covered with plastic sheeting, had formed three tents
where his family hid from the Serbs. Then he moved on to four
rough grave mounds, covered with dead branches and a few drying
red poppies from the fields.

The dead were Sokol Rama, 90 years old; Zenel Neziri, 70; Ajshe
Kastrati, 50, and Luljeta Kastrati, 22, he said. They did not have any
more German marks to give the Serbian police he said, and that is
why they were killed.

"The bodies were left in the house," he said, "We dug the graves
during the night. We went into the houses and got the bodies and
we took them during the night."

Ramiz Zeqiri, who turned up with some other villagers to offer
coffee, said, "There are also other graves, including two more near
your car."

Leading the way again, Kastrati dictated the names, ages and
occupations of 24 people from the area who, he said, had been shot
and then dumped in the grease pit of a garage where buses are
repaired. At the garage he pointed out small piles of brass cartridge
casings at the lip of the pit and then climbed down inside to show
the bloodstains.

After the villagers in Qyshk had shown their graves, they urged
visitors on to the neighboring village of Pavlan.

"Graves," said two women in the yard of a farmhouse. "Yes, keep
going just a little way down the road."

"One man of 68 was burned alive here," said Haki Gashi, 40, leading
the way to mounds of earth, marked by sticks with upturned plastic
buckets, on the edge of a garden. "Six people who were burned are
buried here: the old man and a 27-year-old man who was shot
dead; also 3 men were executed in another part of the village."

Other villagers gathered around, giving the names and more
gruesome details. Then Isa Gashi, 60, led a march through the
fields, past a cow whose flanks were charred when the Serbs
burned the barn, to two more graves. One, marked by a large juice
can and a pair of slippers, was that of a 44-year-old woman, the
second, that of a 74-year-old man shot when he tried to sneak back
one night to feed his cows. He was buried in the dark by his
neighbors, his grave marked by a plastic water bottle.

"We were isolated," said Isa Gashi, wearing the traditional white
conical hat of the Albanian mountains and a fierce mustache. "We
have been living for five weeks in the mountains. This is the first day
we have been able to find out what has happened and who was
killed. In these three villages there were 80 people killed."

Nicks and stones
may break my bones

But Nicks in chains
.... excite me.

POST-WAR PSYCHOLOGY

Daniella,

Today you say :
".... being against the war
and nazi-Nato
doesn't mean supporting MilosEvic..."

In your past posts
you were not only anti-NATO and anti-war,
you degraded and insulted Albanians
you hinted that they 'deserved' what they got.
That, Daniella, is support for Milostivic.

You specifically supported Milosivech's
War efforts by spreading Serb propaganda
and Meelosjivich lies
disguised as news reports
of dubious sources.

Remember those days?

Daniella, forget those days.
Today I am happy to see that YOU
(of all the other collaborators)
are willing to see the truth.

There is nothing wrong with
adjusting your position.
It is a good sign - as it proves
that you have are learning.

At least you are trying to squeeze
away from the radical pro-Mlivlosovic
position you had earlier.

MUCH UNLIKE YOUR HARDLINE FRIENDS
Mihlosovich and MoroNick,
Obviously, they can't learn.

SLOVENIAN GIRL
LONG LIVE CAPITALISM !

DANIELLA,
THINK - Activate brain !

You seem surprised that the American Senate
threatened to deny a 750-million-dollar
aid package to Russia
as Cohen was 'negotiating'
with these MoroNicks in Helsinki.

....... DUH !!!!!


Learn this GOLDEN RULE :
THOSE THAT HAVE THE GOLD MAKE THE RULE.

Despite their show of "power" at the Airport,
the Russians walked away from Helsinki
with NOTHING they wanted,
no self-command, no Russian zone.
Now they are security guards at an Airport,
guarding NATO airplanes and interests,
while NATO controls the airport.

We didn't fight them with green tanks,
we beat them with green bills.

After 70 years of communism and poverty,
these are VERY GREEDY BASTARDS
..... and we have a lot of money.
LONG LIVE CAPITALISM !

This is so simple I think even
PathetNick, MoroNick, and NazICK
will understandNick it.

quick note to guido:


DASLUD is my AOL screen name which i've chosen not to use here.similarly my real name, larry.


i use "L'menexe" when i post outside of AOL.


DASLUD is short for "DAS LUDICROIX", the name of my rock band.

NATO defeats Russian paratroopers
by paying-off greedy-ass generals
and Russian Mafia Capo's.

or

Russian Army dumps Serb-comrades
in exchange for refrigerators,
televisions and microwave ovens.

or

Was the Russian support for Serbs
during this conflict
just a third-grade attempt
to bully some cash from the west?

or

Who will feed the Russian army
during their stay in Kosovo?

GUIDO
Please be a bit more carefull with peoples names. L'menexe is also doing a wonderfull job her on this board trying to tame the NAZICKS and Daniellllllllllllllllla's (She lost me with her LL)Im not sure how many LL's will satisfy her need, although strang graving.

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JACK Good to see you round a again
Heb je mijn boodschappen op... Niet gekregen?Of is er iets anders?
_

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And for NAZICK PETE he just lurks and wait the bad blood part wasn't too far off probably :-)))

Emina

Emina,
Alles goed hier. Misschien heb ik iets gemist van jou boodschappen - wij zijn namelijk bezig met het verhuizen en vernieuwen van onze kantoren, dus mijn oude fax nummer was een tijdje out of service. Ik stuur maandag wel weer iets per fax. Btw heb ik jullie address in Ned? Ik wil iets per post sturen. Groetjes.

HELLO MAJA !

Please join us.
Come out and feed us some Serbian info-bits.
Dish out some Serb twist of facts.
Summer is here, the sun is out
and we crave to binge on Serb propaganda
(and propagandists).

Specialty of the day today is
'Serbs and collaborators on the BBQ'.
We are having more fun than the KLA/UçK.

But it is not as fun here
without you Serbs / Collaborators.

IZBICE / IZBICE / IZBICE / IZBICE / IZBICE

IZBICE in the Drenica region - MAR.28.99

IZBICE in the Drenica region - MAR.28.99

IZBICE in the Drenica region - MAR.28.99

IZBICE in the Drenica region - MAR.28.99

IZBICE in the Drenica region - MAR.28.99

Jack, lies and insults instead of arguments?

The Albanian
terrorists were
torturing 25
civilians of
various
nationalities for
days in Pristina,
and a Gypsy,
aged 70, from
Kosovo and
Metohija died as
the result of the
torture - KFOR
as usually
arrived too late
and kindly
released the
terrorists

To: Justice (Whatever)
The graves of about 150 victims of the Serbs' worst alleged massacre in Izbize are empty. Whoever did
it - has a lot to hide. Serbs or KLA? It's not attributed to either part yet.
Funny enough, confirmed NATO killing of serb civilians far outnumber the alleged killing by serb forces of albanian civilians.
P.S. Your repeated typing of the name of that village will not relocate it to Holland.

Daniela,
No - no lies, no insults.

The arguement was this :
You were a Milosovic supporter all along.
You are now amending your position.
This is O.K. - this is welcome.
There is no shame to it.

Insults ?
I think very little of the Russian (armed forces).
I see them as POOR, GREEDY, CONFUSED and BARBARIC.

Their latest actions support this contention.
It's not an insult to call them what they are.

Want to read insults?
Read your own postings
These are insults to common intelligence.

Take your latest post as an example.
What did you expect of KFOR to be?
Did you think they can be OMNIPRESENT like GOD?

KFOR can not be omnipresent, Daniella.
KFOR can not control every square meter of land in Kosovo.

Revenge will take place .....
Expect KFOR to be late in a few crisis situations.
It is an army of men - not GOD.

KFOR will 'control' the anger and need for revenge,
but do you really think they can 'delete' it
in the first weeks ?

Don't be impatient.
If anything NOTICE how since the start of the war,
TIME IS ON OUR SIDE.