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"For good reasons, the KLA is an internationally recognized terrorist group and was listed as such by our own State Department when paramilitary
operations began against them on March 1st as a result of their rising level of terrorism against Serb police and against Albanian loyalists, including several
postmen and a forest ranger. The KLA is also associated with a major drug smuggling ring that runs from Turkey into Europe via the Balkans. To date, the
KLA appears to have killed more Albanians than Serb police or soldiers."]]> Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/3/#post-4364 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/3/#post-4363 Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:35:00 +0000
Zoja]]> Kosovo War zoja https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/3/#post-4363 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/3/#post-4362 Wed, 09 Jun 1999 02:22:00 +0000 if the mob of Albanian refugees would literally tear the 7-year-old Gypsy boy apart, limb from limb, said
three aid workers who saw the attack on Saturday night. Minutes earlier, 15 to 20 enraged Kosovo
Albanian refugees had beaten the boy's older brother and father, whom they accused of collaborating
with the Serbs and killing Albanians inside Kosovo last month. "The look in their eyes when they tried to
tear this boy's arms out -- there was just fire in their eyes," said Ed Joseph, of the Catholic Relief
Service, one of the aid workers who pulled the boy from the mob. The attack was part of a chaotic and
terrifying four-hour siege here as a mob of several thousand Kosovo Albanian refugees tried to seize
and beat the Gypsy family. Joseph, who was still shaken by the attack Sunday, said the attack seemed
to him to be a grim omen for what could happen in Kosovo when the refugees return. "I think it's a very
bad harbinger for any kind of reconciliation or easy peace," he said. "Any Serb still there has to be
packing his bags." In one sense, the refugee camps here are sweltering cauldrons of hate,
where increasingly frustrated Kosovo Albanians can commiserate about their mutual victimization at the
hands of the Serbs. As might be expected, peer pressure is exerted in the camps to hate Serbs. In the
Cegrane camp here, which holds 40,000 refugees, children recited poems to a crowd of refugees last
Thursday that glorified the Kosovo Albanian rebel soldiers and listed massacre after massacre believed
to have been committed by Serbs as their Albanian teachers looked on approvingly. And most refugees
interviewed here Sunday said they believed the Gypsies who were attacked did commit war crimes and
applauded the mob's actions.
"We are the Hague for them," said Afrim Ademi, an Albanian refugee, referring to the international war
crimes tribunal in the Netherlands. Rumors of what sparked the attack on the Gypsies were already
rampant Sunday. Nancy A. Shalala, a spokeswoman for the Catholic Relief Service who was trying to
piece together what occurred Saturday night, said that
she repeatedly heard that a newly arrived ethnic Albanian refugee said he recognized the Gypsy
teen-ager because he was wearing a piece of jewelry stolen from the refugee's mother. The refugee
reportedly said the Gypsy had killed his father and then robbed his mother. The Gypsy teen-ager and
his father were then beaten in separate attacks and brought at about 7:30 p.m. to the Catholic Relief
building by Kosovo Albanians who work for the aid agency. A group of 15 to 20 Albanian refugees
stormed the building an hour later and beat them two men even more fiercely. The aid agency's staff
staff finally pushed the group out of the building. A large crowd then began forming around the building,
led by a group of 150 to 200 men, Ms. Shalala said. The badly beaten father and son were moved to
the building's bathroom to prevent them from being seen by the crowd. Aid agency workers also went
to the family's tent to try to retrieve the mother and three younger children before they too were set
upon by the
Albanian refugees. When they arrived at the relief agency's building, the 7-year-old boy was grabbed by
the mob, but then wrestled free by aid workers. With other Gypsies in the camp being "hunted like
dogs," aid workers said, the aid workers tried to hide them to protect them.]]> Kosovo War maja https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/3/#post-4362 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/3/#post-4361 Wed, 09 Jun 1999 02:21:00 +0000 THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Kosovo Liberation Army, which the Clinton administration has embraced
and some members of Congress want to arm as part of the NATO bombing
campaign, is a terrorist organization that has financed much of its war
effort with profits from the sale of heroin.

Recently obtained intelligence documents show that drug agents in five
countries, including the United States, believe the KLA has aligned itself
with an extensive organized crime network centered in Albania that
smuggles heroin and some cocaine to buyers throughout Western Europe and,
to a lesser extent, the United States.

The documents tie members of the Albanian Mafia to a drug smuggling cartel
based in Kosovo's provincial capital, Pristina. The cartel is manned by
ethic Albanians who are members of the Kosovo National Front, whose armed
wing is the KLA. The documents show it is one of the most powerful heroin
smuggling organizations in the world, with much of its profits being
diverted to the KLA to buy weapons. In 1998, the U.S. State Department listed the KLA -- formally
known as the
Ushtria Clirimtare e Kosoves, or UCK -- as an international terrorist
organization, saying it had bankrolled its operations with proceeds from
the international heroin trade and from loans from known terrorists like
Osama bin Laden.

"They were terrorists in 1998 and now, because of politics, they're
freedom fighters," said one top drug official who asked not to be
identified. The DEA report, prepared for the National Narcotics Intelligence
Consumer's Committee (NNICC), said a majority of the heroin seized in
Europe is transported over the Balkan Route. It said drug smuggling
organizations composed of Kosovo's ethnic Albanians were considered
"second only to Turkish gangs as the predominant heroin smugglers along
the Balkan Route." The NNICC is a coalition of federal agencies involved
in the war on drugs.

"Kosovo traffickers were noted for their use of violence and for their
involvement in international weapons trafficking," the DEA report said.]]> Kosovo War maja https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/3/#post-4361 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4360 Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:55:00 +0000
Cologne, 8 June 1999 (RFE/RL) - Foreign ministers of the Group of Seven industrialized nations plus Russia announced today that they have agreed on the text of a United Nations Security Council resolution detailing plans for an international peace force in Kosovo. In Cologne, Germany, where the ministers met for a second day, U.S. State Department spokesman James Rubin told reporters that the text met all of NATO's objectives. Rubin confirmed that the resolution would establish a unified command and control system for the peacekeeping force, which is expected to include about 10,000 Russian troops as well as at least 40,000 NATO troops.

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov said the resolution text has been worked out by all eight of the foreign ministers meeting in Cologne. He said Russia will certainly support that text at the Security Council.

But Ivanov also said that details on the command structure for Russian troops in the international peacekeeping force still must be resolved. Yesterday the talks stalled over Russia's objection to NATO's insistence that it lead the peace force.

Cook said it is too early to determine when the U.N. resolution would be voted upon. But he said the sooner Belgrade starts a withdrawal, the sooner peace will come to the Balkans.

The withdrawal is a key part of the international peace plan approved last week by Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. Under the plan, the Security Council must approve an international force and civilian administration that would be sent to Kosovo under UN auspices.

French Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Anne Gazeau-Secret said the text was adopted due to an accord on the idea of "synchronization" proposed by Foreign Minister Hubert Vedrine.

Vedrine had proposed that a verified Serb troop withdrawal, an end to NATO bombing and the passage of a UN resolution occur roughly at the same time.


http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/1999/06/F.RU.990608151408.html


Tuesday June 8 10:28 AM ET


Full Coverage
NATO - Serbia War


By Robert Mahoney

COLOGNE, Germany (Reuters) - The West and Russia reached a landmark agreement Tuesday that could bring peace to the Balkans, but it looked unlikely that NATO's 11-week air campaign on Yugoslavia would come to an immediate end.

After two days of talks between foreign ministers of the Group of Seven industrial powers and Russia, German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said: ``We have finally achieved a breakthrough by agreeing on a Security Council resolution.''

The draft resolution will be passed to the U.N. Security Council for approval but a senior U.S. official warned that the council would not be able to vote on the resolution Tuesday.

``No way it will pass today. They will have to have a consultation, and the other members will have to study it,'' the official told reporters.

Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov said in Cologne further discussions would be needed in the Security Council on the make-up of an international peacekeeping force for Kosovo.

If the resolution is passed by the Security Council, pressure will mount on Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to start pulling his troops out of Kosovo.

The five permanent members of the Security Council are the United States, Britain, France, Russia and China. The Chinese, bitterly opposed to NATO's actions in Yugoslavia, have yet to say whether they will back the new deal.

President Clinton described the Cologne agreement as ``a step forward.''

He said in Washington: ``The key now, as it has been from the very beginning of the process, is implementation. A verifiable withdrawal of Serb forces will allow us to suspend the bombing and go forward with the plan. NATO is determined to bring the Kosovars home...''

Fischer said the Cologne agreement opened the way to finalizing a military agreement between NATO and Yugoslav commanders on a complete Serbian withdrawal from Kosovo and the deployment of an international peacekeeping force.

State Department spokesman James Rubin told reporters the resolution ``meets all of our objectives and that will have all the necessary decisions to have the peacekeeping force with NATO at its core to operate in Kosovo.''

Renewed hopes of a resolution to the Kosovo conflict gave a boost to European stock markets and pushed the fledgling euro currency back above $1.04 after closing below $1.03 in the U.S. Monday.

The Cologne breakthrough came after Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov consulted Moscow.

Ivanov told the ministers he had spoken to Russian President Boris Yeltsin. He presented proposals to the ministers who then broke off the meeting to study them.

Rubin said the resolution allowed for a Kosovo peacekeeping force with a unified command and control.

Another key NATO demand would also be met with the inclusion of a reference to the war crimes tribunal that has indicted Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic as a war criminal, Rubin said.

But he said that until Yugoslavia agreed a schedule for withdrawal of Serb forces from Kosovo and began a verifiable pullout, NATO would not suspend air strikes against Yugoslavia.

Earlier Tuesday, Russian defense minister Igor Sergeyev said his ministry had drawn up proposals for sending up to 10,000 troops to a peacekeeping force in Kosovo, but they would not be under NATO command.

President Clinton told Russian President Boris Yeltsin by phone Tuesday that he was dispatching Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott to Moscow to work out details of Russian participation in a Kosovo security force.

White House spokesman Joe Lockhart said Clinton and Yeltsin spoke for about 15 minutes and that Clinton thanked Yeltsin for the ``constructive role'' Russia has played in trying to get a peaceful settlement to the Yugoslav war.

The ministers went into a fresh round of talks in Cologne after a night of intensified NATO air strikes on Yugoslavia in which explosions were heard in central Belgrade for the first time in several days.

Bombs blasted targets in Kosovo and turned oil refineries near Belgrade and in northern Serbia into blazing infernos.

Serbian state television showed huge flames and clouds of smoke above the Novi Sad refinery after NATO missiles hits its fuel depots. A civilian was killed in the attack, the Yugoslav state news agency Tanjug reported.

The European Union's Kosovo envoy, Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, arrived in Beijing Tuesday to brief China's leaders on the peace process and lobby for their support for a U.N. resolution.

The Chinese reacted with fury when NATO accidentally bombed its Belgrade embassy last month and has repeatedly condemned the air war. Western nations are concerned that Beijing could use its Security Council veto to block a Kosovo deal.

Tuesday, the Chinese Foreign Ministry called on NATO to ''immediately halt its bombing of Yugoslavia to create the conditions and atmosphere for the resolution of the Kosovo issue.'' NATO has so far insisted the bombing must go on until a Serb retreat from Kosovo is clearly under way.

Yeltsin and Chinese President Jiang Zemin discussed efforts to draft a U.N. Security Council resolution on Kosovo by telephone Tuesday, Russia's Interfax news agency said.

In the G8 talks, Russia and the West had been at odds on two main points -- the relationship between NATO and the peacekeeping force and what the U.N. resolution should say about the war crimes tribunal which has indicted Milosevic.

The Western foreign ministers spent eight hours with Ivanov in nearby Bonn Monday, wrangling over terms for a NATO-led force to replace the withdrawing Yugoslavs.

They broke up when Ivanov told him he had to consult Moscow on some contentious points and could not get a quick answer.

Ivanov blamed the hitch on the deadlock in military contacts between NATO and Yugoslav generals over the scope and timing of the Yugoslav withdrawals. ``This led to certain points causing problems that need ironing out,'' he said.

Russia, which has religious and cultural ties with the Serbs, has been striving to maintain a significant independent role for its own troops alongside a planned 50,000-strong NATO peace force for Kosovo.


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NAH NAH NAH NAH BOO BOO. NICK IS FULL OF POO POO!]]> Kosovo War guidomor https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4360 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4359 Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:41:00 +0000
There is ethnic cleansing committed by Serb forces in Kosovo.

There might be partition of Kosovo.

There will be NATO bases.

There will be a NATO contingent whose goal amongst many others will be to make sure Serb residents in Kosovo do not get bombed, massacred, evicted, mistreated, or robbed as they have been doing to the Albanian civilians and revolutionaries.

There will be no commercial exploitation of Kosovo by NATO.

There will be no removal of Milosevic.

I understand why you are pissed off, it's because you are so freaking ignorant!

LOL LOL LOL]]> Kosovo War guidomor https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4359 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4358 Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:02:00 +0000 www.washtimes.com


A slight delay,
please, for NATO's
next war


We were expecting to see NATO cruise missiles saving
Tibet by bombing Beijing by now, cleaning the clocks
of the Chinese ethnic cleansers.
We know that China is next on NATO's to-do list, it must
be, it has to be, because Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, who never
imagined that playing Audie Murphy and John Wayne with real
guns could be this much fun, told us six weeks ago that the
reason we have to destroy Kosovo to save it is only to stop
Slobodan Milosevic's brutal ethnic cleansing. Mr. Clinton told a
labor-union rally in Washington the day he unleashed his
bombers that blowing Yugoslavia back to the Bronze Age is
necessary to make sure that Europe had someone to do
business with.
But a funny thing happened to our guys on the way to the
cellar to select a suitably celebratory vintage of Mumms. The
Serbs balked, and the Chinese ethnic cleansers thus get a
reprieve.
Nobility can play no favorites, and unless Mr. Clinton wants
the United States to stamp itself indelibly as the raging bully of
the West and to stamp himself as the coward of the county
--which of course he would never, ever do -- he'll have to
avenge Tibet, too. China has raped that luckless little
Shangri-La far more brutally, inflicting far more death and
depravity and populating far more graveyards, than Slobo has
done in Kosovo. And Slobo never even stole our nuclear
secrets. (But of course he never financed a Clinton presidential
campaign, either.)
But if civilizing mainland China, which is big enough to hit
back, can wait, bombing Yugoslavia, which is small and
helpless enough to make an ideal target for bullies, can't.
Madeleine Albright, the Roseanne Barr of New Age statecraft,
flew off to Bonn yesterday as NATO's bombers resumed their
attack on the usual targets -- old folks' homes, gynecological
clinics, prisons, hospitals, apartment houses, refugee convoys,
the occasional embassy and maybe the capital of Bulgaria
again. She promised "a peaceful resolution" of the war she
helped ignite 11 weeks ago. A "peaceful" resolution to the
accompaniment of bombs? Words mean whatever you want
them to mean in Mr. Clinton's Washington.
Bill and Tony stayed on the trans-Atlantic telephone most of
yesterday, trying to patch up the "implementation talks" that
collapsed on Sunday night. So their war isn't over yet. NATO's
bombs have made a rubbled wasteland of Kosovo, but
nobody in Washington or London dares call it peace. Neither
Bill nor Tony is that shameless. Not yet.
Mr. Milosevic's stall might even be a little serendipity for the
Tony twins. Once the euphoria and the champagne in
Washington and London wear off, as euphoria and the effects
of champagne always do, it won't be quite so easy to portray
the end of the war as a triumph of the will. What it may be is
the first American war to end with both a bang and a whimper.
Mr. Milosevic, in fact, is getting pretty much what he wants,
minus a lot of Kosovars that Bill and Tony got rid of for him.
He's got the Russians involved, better for him and worse for us;
he got the reintroduction of some Serbian military forces into
Kosovo, and he won the elimination of any hint of
independence for the Kosovar province. The international
force is excluded from Serbia and Montenegro; the integrity of
Yugoslavia is guaranteed; there is no room for a meaningful
referendum. Not a bad day's work, and these are concessions
squeezed from Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, not Slobodan
Milosevic.
Not only that, but NATO will have to contend with the
KLA, likely to be embittered and spoiling to make someone's
life miserable for it. The United Nations "peacekeepers," as we
will call them even though the word mocks the reality, since
there will be no peace to keep, will land in hostile terrain. Mr.
Clinton and his clueless secretary of state can call it
"permissive" all day long, but it will be anything but.
Mr. Clinton seems to think the KLA is made up of freedom
fighters, something like a Balkans Viet Cong. He would know
better if he had not scuttled off to hide out in London when his
country called a quarter of a century ago.
The "peacekeeping" force will be plagued by ambiguities of
control and command. The Russians will arrive with their own
commanders, and if the Russians get them, why not everybody
else? The Rambouillet accords, which we were told we had a
duty to get excited about only yesterday, are history.
But there will be work to do, mopping up the blood and
cleaning up the wreckage wrought by the Tony twins, binding
up the wounds of children and persuading the 900,000
Kosovars we made into refugees to return to the scene of the
crime.
Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, having made "peace" in the
Balkans, can't wait to march toward the sound of guns
somewhere else. We can wait.


Wesley Pruden is editor in chief of The Times.]]> Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4358 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4357 Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:24:00 +0000
They are marines because that is the only thing they can do. They cannot create anything, so they train to kill.

But that is what America does best, isn't it ? Kill what it cannot defeat by other means. You must be so proud to belong to a nation of dumb cowards with no honour, losing all these battles, and led by a draft-dodger liar in chief, who even admitted to lie and cheat on his wife with a pig.

No other country in the world can match the ridiculous of the USA. I think more movies should be made about how sad and sick you people are.

Your women are ugly with their Montgolfier boobs and other face lifts. The food you eat is disgusting and you seem to love it, given the rate of obesity recorded. Today in the news they mentioned this 500 (!) kgs man hospitalised in the US. Only a stupid US cretin could go this far...

This is only the beginning of a series of posts about the sick USA, in an attempt to explain why and how the problems they experience in dealing with life in general are transferred to the rest of the world.

More to come.]]> Kosovo War nick https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4357 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4356 Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:10:00 +0000
There is no genocide committed by Serb forces in Kosovo.

There will be no partition of Kosovo.

There will not be any bases of NATO either.

There will also be a Russian contingent whose goal amongst many others will be to make sure Serb residents in Kosovo do not get bombed, massacred, evicted, mistreated, robbed as they have been so far by the disgusting Albanian terrorists.

There will be no commercial exploitation of Kosovo by NATO.

There will be no removal of Milosevic.

I understand why you are pissed off, I would be too in a situation like this !

haha]]> Kosovo War nick https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4356 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4355 Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:00:00 +0000 Unfortunately it is NOT over yet, cause "Mr" Milosevic had to put on new demands on the table after having a good lenghtly discussion in the night with his beloved Miriana Markovic.

Its a real shame as i was really praying that it would stop on sunday.Somewhere knowing in the back of my head it was not likely, but more wishfull thinking from my part.

Second i think if its going to stop that nato isnt in place there, but some more independant force "just to watch over"
Question remains for me and a lot of people( mostly SErbians) i speak to on a daily bases who would be most reliable?

Note these people i have contact with are very much against Milosevic and all the other murderous gangs including uck.They just want peace and most of all not being the blacksheep after all this is over.

Anyone has a suggestion?
Emina]]> Kosovo War emina https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-june-9-1999/paged/2/#post-4355