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 phil
(@phil)
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dC, I'm curious as to why you feel that the Constitution is Capitalist America's greatest enemy. After all Hamilton who set up the banking system also had a hand in authoring the Constitution. In fact none of the authors were exactly po'folks either all "suffering from "enlightened self-interest keeping a keen eye on the wellbeing of their family fortunes and the fortunes of their progeny to come.

In fact if you look at the power structure (the aristocracy) of Yugoslavia your likely to find interesting parallels between them and their constitution and America's elite power structure and its constitution both constitutions protecting and providing fertile ground for the capital generating elements and not the capital consuming elements of each.

Come to think about it this "war" is probably more about the mining interests in northwestern Kosovo than ethnic clensing, which of course is close second and far more usefull politically. phil


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 nick
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Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 182
 

Zoja, there is nothing wrong about being supportive. Thank you.

What I am trying to say is that I am not writing the posts you give me credit for. Also, I write others you seem to have missed out. It's okay to question things, just beware of assumptions. I do not deserve the credits you give me on the Irish issue simply because I do not know enough about it although I did live in the UK. And again, I did not write that post.

Maja and Daniela are two different people, ask the systems administrator for confirmation if you need.

Thank you for sharing your views on some interesting issues.

Best regards

Nick


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 j
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 14
 

One more site for the war crimes commited by the Serbian Police and Army ....
They are very disturbing, AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE SEEN if you are under 18 or sensitive.

http://www.alb-net.com/warcrimes-img/warcrimes.htm

Will this never end ?????


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(@pissedoffguido)
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 1
 

The more I study independant news sources(Including official Yugoslavian ones), the more I agree with bombing them until their whole country is one smoking hole in the ground. May God have mercy on their evil souls, because we are going to bomb the fascist bastards back into the stone age. Give up or die Serbs. I hope you don't give up. I hope your children are spared because they are innocent. But I don't care if they kill every adult in Yugoslavia. You all deserve the death penalty for the hideous crimes your military has comitted, and you have allowed them to do these things, so you are all guilty.


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(@jacklondon)
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 266
 

So still no answer to my question.

Would you or would you not stop a wife-beater?

If you are unable to talk him out of it,

would you walk away - or will you use force?

I would use force.

I don't like violence either,

but how do you stop a wife beater that doesn't want to reason?

Do you not see the parallel ?


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 ddc
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 84
 

Phil: Hamilton predates the World Bank and the Corporate take over of America. Worship your coins and trinkets all ya want, but remember y2k=You Took! Now its time to give!
Nutz a maroon is not a moron, moron! And I'm glad you qualified where you get your wisdom. First time Bugs was ever considered a scholar!
Some news to make you smile!

Subject: Yugoslavs are making jokes, Dragan
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cruise
missiles, cluster bombs and many other radioactive bombs with all known
and
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of
factories, hospitals, schools, buildings, apartments, so as killing
innocent
civilians and children in a direct vicinity!

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Kursumlija, Vranje, Kosovska Mitrovica, and many more devastated
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During the day guests pay many visits to demolished buildings, ruined
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You may also be able to visit the F-117 graveyard in Budjanovci, but
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are
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endangered, and since there are no other reasons to continue this
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Yugoslavia, or if some break happens, and if you don't see at least 10
civilians killed per two nights of bombing - money back guarantee.

RECOMMENDATIONS
The people of Yugoslavia would gladly share their daily food portions
and
supplies, but we strongly recommend you to bring your own food and
luxuries
such as peanut butter, caviar, maple syrup etc. UNLESS you want to
experience the full impression of being a Serb in their own country.

If you're not sure with whom are you talking to on the field and if you
can't recognize his nationality, which is a common thing, you may know
who
the Serbs are at any occasion - an average Serb will never say "I did
NOT
have sexual relationship with that woman."

ACTIVITIES
This program is supervised by most of the world humanitarian
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This story is a pure satire. The reality isn't much different.
Stop the war.
Stop the bombing.


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 ddc
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 84
 

Sergey, thanks comrad but one tiny little thing. I use cannabis, a natural plant. Dope is manufactured in labratories by humans thinking they can make things better than God. Ego's! So drugs and dope in my opinion comes in white powders or bottles and cans. Or reside in houses in Washington DC.
Remember cannabis prevents brain damage. The stigma comes from the DEAth who are deathly afraid of debating the cannabis issue so they try to trash the messenger. Sound familiar?
Peace not WoD
Cannabis is Food, Fuel, Fiber, FARMaceuticals
MMMay Day is Manana~!
DdC
PS: Try getting Milosevic stoned. Couldn't Hurt! LOL!


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(@emina)
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Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 441
 

TO GUIDO.
That your pissed off fine, but not every Serbian citizan is quilty. Sorry that complete Bull get a grip on yourself will you!!!!!!!
What you do now is making hate. Hate=war

Emina.

Ps spare me the split personality talk i mean it.
Discuss fine, chare fine.
Shout, scream blaming innocents where ever they are from NOT FINE!!!!!


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 maja
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 303
 

Zoja, Emina, Kolina, whatever. You are saying you can not read and write Serbo-Croatian cause you were too young to read newspapers or what? Yes, I asked you to translate few lines of the song and you couldn't. And you misspelled Milosevic again. Unbelievable for somebody who says was living in Bosnia.

Prizren. And refugees fleeing from there. Mostly saying bombing was too much to handle. Something America is reluctant to hear. Obviously blood thirst is not being satisfield. America had to kill 20 Iraqi civilians in the last two days aswell. What did they do? Are they indangering Albanians aswell? Are they demons aswell? Clinton is still addressing his fellow Americans with stupid messages no one believes anymore. Atleast Blair has shut up. His capital looks more like Pristina every day.


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 nick
(@nick)
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Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 182
 

To all Pro-NATO good guys in favor of the destruction of Yugoslavia, not long to go for Clinton now. Either he stops his illegal war or he loses his presidency toys:

Professor of Constitutional and International Law at the University of Pittsburgh

MICHAEL RATNER
Attorney, Center for Constitutional Rights

"Lobel and Ratner have litigated numerous cases challenging illegal wars including Dellums v. Bush, the case that forced President Bush to obtain congressional authority for the Gulf War in 1991.
In a joint statement released today, they said: "In a remarkable vote against the war in Yugoslavia, the House of Representatives, by a
vote of 213 to 213, failed to give the President the constitutionally required authorization he needed to carry on the air war against Yugoslavia. The Constitution grants Congress the sole power to declare war. It must give its affirmative assent. It did not do so. Contrary to the President's statement that he will continue this war, he has no authority to do so. It would be a remarkable act of executive hubris and illegal as well to continue the bombing. It is a serious subversion of our constitutional structure (and is
impeachable). His only option is to end the aerial bombardment and negotiate a peaceful solution."
Relevant legal citations:

U.S. Constitution: Article I, Section 8. "The
Congress shall have power to...declare war..."

The War Powers Resolution, 50 U.S.C.A. Sections
1541-1548. Section 2(c):
"The constitutional powers of the President as
Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations
where imminent involvement in hostilities is
clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."


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 ddc
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 84
 

For Milosevic, NATO, Klintoon, War Mongers and the WoD Wingnuts! If you only had brains, heart and Nerve!

Brain

I could while away the hours, conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain.
And my head I'd be scratchin' while my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain.
I'd unravel every riddle for any individ'le,
In trouble or in pain.
With the thoughts you'll be thinkin' you could be another Lincoln
If you only had a brain.
Oh, I could tell you why The ocean's near the shore.
I could think of things I never thunk before.
And then I'd sit, and think some more.
I would not be just a nothin' my head all full of stuffin'
My heart all full of pain.
I would dance and be merry, life would be a ding-a-derry,
If I only had a brain.

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Heart

When a man's an empty kettle he should be on his mettle,
And yet I'm torn apart.
Just because I'm presumin' that I could be kind-a-human,
If I only had heart.
I'd be tender - I'd be gentle and awful sentimental
Regarding Love and Art.
I'd be friends with the sparrows ... and the boys who shoots the arrows
If I only had a heart.
Picture me - a balcony. Above a voice sings low.
Wherefore art thou, Romeo? I hear a beat....
How sweet.
Just to register emotion, jealousy - devotion,
And really feel the part.
I could stay young and chipper and I'd lock it with a zipper,
If I only had a heart.

_____________________________

The Nerve

Yeh, it's sad, believe me, Missy, When you're born to be a sissy
Without the vim and verve.
But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve.
I'm afraid there's no denyin' I'm just a dandelion,
A fate I don't deserve.
I'd be brave as a blizzard....
I'd be gentle as a lizard....
I'd be clever as a gizzard....
If the Wizard is a Wizard who will serve.
Then I'm sure to get a brain, a heart, a home, the nerve!
If I Only Had a Brain/Heart/Nerve
from The Wizard Of Oz

Peace not WoD Ya'all!
FFFF
MMMay Day is Manana!
DdC


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 maja
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 303
 

Number of Albanians saved? ZERO.
Number of Serbians murdered? AROUND 600.

And NATO is "winning". This is looking more like Vietnam every day. Eventhough Americans had to escape from the roof the ambassy they are still saying the won cause they destroyed the country completely and murdered hunderds of thousands of people.


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 maja
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 303
 

Serbian people, start suing America for the damage it has done to you. Emotional pain, physical pain, loss of property or job. Everything goes.

If you need some information, be free to e-mail me.


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(@spirodreamer)
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 75
 

It is not time to sue, Maja. It is time to defend. The #1 fun activity in Yugoslavia, particularly in Belgrade is cheering. But, not cheering for a football/soccer club, then for the Anti-Aircraft Defense (PVO) as it shoots at NATO planes and cruise missiles. Hundreds of people go into parks and cheer, the same as in a soccer match. The PVO personnel are the true Yugoslav heroes - now bigger than any soccer or even basketball star (Yugoslavia is a multiple World and Olympic basketball champion).

As of two days ago the Yugoslav official tally is 46 NATO planes, 6 helicopters and 140 cruise missiles. (about 8% of aircraft and about 10% of cruise missiles). Nobody has to believe in this, it is up to you. I have at least three eye-witness accounts from my personal friends in Yugoslavia, of NATO planes shot down and pilots ejecting and parachuting to the ground. They are lucky if the Yugoslav Army gets to them first. If people do, there is not much left to bury. The US rescue does not operate any more, since two rescue helicopters were shot down three weeks ago.

NATO dummies are very angry. So, they are increasingly targeting civilian targets (trains, hospitals, schools, residential blocks).

"We are winning, NATO is loosing, and they know it", to paraphrase stupid words of one little - would be big man of NATO.


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 maja
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Joined: 23 years ago
Posts: 303
 

I know it's the time to defend. But suing is a part of defending. The sooner American people realize that not only are they paying for the bombs that destroy, they will be paying for everything those bombs destroy. More law suits, the sonner that will hit home. Believe me, every little thing helps. And why not? America is not in war, therefor every casulty is a victim of murder and every destroyed property owner is liable for damage. Let's be real, if this is not a war, then we have civil liability. And liable is the one who is the owner of the plane. In most cases, American goverment. Sue!!!


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