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 zoja
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Basil.

Go do what you are best at. Enrich yourself on the black market. Or better yet, do something even more useful to society. Do as your herbal namesake, go stand in a garden, grow roots and provide your starving country people with some BASIL in their food. Your brain has gone from your body, anyway.

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 zoja
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OK, enough said to the murdering fascists on this board. On to more valuable subjects. Some interesting reading.

FOCUS-Serbs turn back refugees headed to Macedonia
12:53 p.m. May 17, 1999 Eastern


By Shaban Buza


BLACE, Macedonia, May 17 (Reuters) - Serb forces on Monday turned back a train carrying up to 2,000 Kosovo refugees trying to flee to Macedonia and a U.N. spokesman said explosions heard from Yugoslav territory increased concerns over their fate.


Reporters, waiting for refugees to arrive at the Blace crossing some
30 km (18 miles) north of the capital Skopje, heard continuous explosions from 11:30 a.m. (0930 GMT) for about an hour on the Yugoslav side.


One reporter said the detonations appeared to be artillery or mortar fire.


At least one plane was heard overhead and there was also an explosion similar to a rocket strike.


A Reuters Television crew in the village of Gorna Blaca, up in the mountains over the border crossing, saw smoke coming from the Kosovo village of Dec, just across the border.


Local residents who saw the shelling said it appeared to be an attack by the Serb forces on positions of the Kosovo Liberation Army whose guerrillas are fighting for the province's independence.


Spokesman Ron Redmond of the main U.N. refugee agency UNHCR said the train arrived in the morning, as on the two previous days when some 900 ethnic Albanians crossed.


``We had assumed there would be more people getting off this train than we saw yesterday or the day before,'' Redmond said.


He said a small group of about 10 old people who were allowed to leave the train told aid workers it was full.


``They say there are four or five carriages absolutely packed, so we could be saying well over 1,000, maybe 1,500, possibly
2,000 refugees on this train,'' he said.


``They were told by some gypsies over there that the train has gone back north with everybody on it. That is all we know, but also we can hear a few explosions over the other side which also gives us some cause for concern.''


Many more blasts were heard after he had spoken.


A 65-year-old man who gave his name as Fehmi, from a village near Vitina in southern Kosovo, told reporters he had come to Macedonia on Sunday to get his pension and crossed back into Serbia around 11 a.m. on Monday hoping to catch a train back home.


When he arrived, the train station was empty. A Serb policeman told him the train had left shortly before and there would be no more trains.


Besa Bajaziti, a young woman from the Kosovo capital Pristina, for some reason was allowed to cross into Macedonia by car earlier on Monday.


She said the streets were empty there apart from heavy police and military patrols and local Albanians were short of food because Serb-owned shops turned them away, saying: ``Go to Albania to be fed or let NATO bring something for you to eat.''


Asked what she thought about NATO's bombing campaign, she said: ``They must do more. Why don't they bomb...all of Serbia? They do not have to show mercy to the Serbians while they are killing us and our children.''


Macedonian President Kiro Gligorov said on Monday up to
100,000 Kosovo refugees should be moved out of his country.


``It is important for the international community to take refugees out --
100,000 refugees,'' Gligorov said during a visit to the Bojane refugee camp.


Macedonia, a small impoverished former Yugoslav republic of 2.2 million people, has campaigned hard to reduce the number of refugees it is sheltering, now estimated at 230,000.

It says it cannot cope with the burden economically and the West has to do more to help. It also says that the influx threatens political stability.
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 zoja
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KLA says it and NATO are ``unofficial comrades''

01:49 p.m May 17, 1999 Eastern


BONN, May 17 (Reuters) - The Kosovo Liberation Army is an unofficial ally of NATO in Kosovo, Jakup Krasniqi, spokesman for the KLA-led interim government of Kosovo, said on Monday.


``NATO and the KLA are fighting against the same enemy, we are unofficial comrades,'' Krasniqi said in an interview released ahead of publication in Tuesday's Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper.


Krasniqi said that the KLA had more soldiers than weapons but were stronger than ever before.


Asked what NATO should do if the air strikes on Yugoslavia prove fruitless in coming few weeks, Krasniqi said that it should ensure that the arms embargo on the KLA was lifted.


``We are an army and we can fight the Serbian troops on the ground,'' he said.


Referring to the worsening feuds among Kosovo Albanian leaders, which experts fear could wreck plans to install self-rule in the province once the war with Yugoslavia ends, Krasniqi said that Albanians remained united in the struggle for freedom.


``Anyone who doesn't want this fight, is of no importance,'' he said.


Krasniqi said the March 1998 election of his bitter rival Ibrahim Rugova by Kosovo's Albanians, took place under ``dubious'' circumstances.


He has previously accused Rugova, viewed in the West as a moderate, of collaborating with Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic.


``No one in the world recognised him as president then. And outside of the KLA, all other institutions and organisations in Kosovo are pure fiction,'' he said.


Rugova told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Monday he would not join a KLA-led government-in-exile and that NATO should keep bombing Yugoslavia until Serb forces quit Kosovo. Rugova said the KLA government formed last month under Hashim Thaqi was not legitimate.


He said his Democratic League of Kosovo, which eschews the KLA's military methods, would not accept the seats it was offered in that government.


Rugova said that he would call a meeting in Bonn of the different groups to try to work out a unified political platform and possibly a new exile government.


Viva UCK!

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Zpka-Zoja
is quoting some "Shaban Buza"; well an interesting name - what would be his nationality - pardon
proofs ?

Bad work indeed.


   
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This one for Rosie and some of her 'friends'
around (she likes to write 'bog i hrvati' !):


CROATS BRAG ABOUT THEIR NAZI PAST (present &
future)


Author: Ivan Kos"utic'
Title: "Croatian Domobranhood in World War II"
Language: Serbo-Croatian
(Original title:
"Hrvatsko Domobranstvo u Drugom Svjetskom Ratu")
(NOTE: Domobrani were Croatian Nazi (Ustashi) home guard)

Printed by: S"kolska Knjiga (School book),
Ministry of Defense of Republic of Croatia
in: Zagreb (capital of Croatia), 1992

ISBN#: 86-401-0260-0

On the opposite side of the title, inside the book: "This book is published thanks
to Commercial bank of Zagreb"....

One can obtain the book anywhere in (Nazi) Croatia or anywhere throughout the
"democratic" world. In the US, you can obtain it at:
"CROATIAN BOOKS"
6313 St. Clair Ave.
Cliveland, OH 44103


The front cover of the book "Croatian Domobranhood in World War II" by Ivan Kosutic,
shows Ustashi World War II decorations. The decorations are similar to the German Nazi
ones. The decoration in the center - right says inside: "Bog i Hrvati 1076 - 1941"
(God and Croats...)


   
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Pete Rose,
O tempera!
This is so upsetting!!
Things at AP have really gone down the drain, if they employ people without a sense of humour.

THOSE WERE ANECDOTES, FUNNY STORIES, STORIES TO HELP PEOPLE CHEER UP IN BAD TIMES, STORIES THAT ONE MUST INTERPRET IF ONE UNDERSTANDS PLAY UPON WORDS OR IDEAS, THOSE WERE NOT NEWS EITHER FROM AP OR REUTERS.

Those two stories were a test , a SBIT, "Silly Boy Identification Test".

Now bad news for you, Pete boy.
You failed.

OK, next time i'll remember you are around and try to explain the joke.

P.S. Do you happen to be a former Polish? Nothing against Poland, just in case ...


   
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Chapter Title (page 167):

Croatian Legionaries at the Eastern Front

Excerpts from page 167 (quote):

The same day German forces attacked Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, Dr. Ante
Pavelich called the military and civilian fuhrer-hood of the Independent State of
Croatia. He explained to them his view of the events. The question was what Croatia
should do in the circumstances. All present, fullheartedly supported the fight of,
as said, advanced forces of Europe against Communist danger that is hanging upon
the globe.

They agreed. The Independent State of Croatia should not stay aside in that fight.
Even more, in agreement with the government of the German Reich, we should see to
the ways how Croatia can militarily help its GREAT ally.

Edmund von Hostenau, the representative of the German Army in Zagreb, was informed
about this decision. He not only fully agreed with the decisions, but suggested
that a letter to Fuhrer should be sent - with proposal about Croatian active
participation on the Eastern Front.

Dr. Ante Pavelic did it the next day, June 23, 1941. In his letter The (Croatian)
Fuhrer said that he was expressing the wishes of many Croats to get in the fight
against enemies of the FREEDOM-LOVING NATIONS and so give their contribution to
the NEW ORDER in Europe.

Adolf Hitler answered to the (Croatian) fuhrer's letter on July 1st, 1941,
welcoming Croatian readiness to join the fight,...

Already on July 2nd, 1941 the (Croatian) fuhrer gave an Order, both in printed
media and on the radio...
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REFERENCE #1:

Famous Nazi hunter's "RESPONSE",
The Wiesenthal Center's World Report
Avgust 1990, Vol 11 No 3 Circ. 376,280, Page 9
(Have in mind that this was published a YEAR *BEFORE* the war in Yugoslavia broke out!)

Title: "Embracing the Brutalities of the Past"

Excerpts (quote):
In Croatia, dangerous signals are appearing on the political landscape Croatian President Franjo Tudjman and his
conservative, nationalist party recently won majority in the Croatian Parliament. Tudjman, one of the authors of the
"Jasenovac Myth", reduces the number of Jewish victims of the Holocaust from six million to one million, and states
that historical data about Jasenovac is "inflated". He further wrote of alledged "PARTICIPATION OF JEWS IN
THE LIQUIDATION OF GYPSIES IN JASENOVAC," AND ACCUSED JEWS OF HAVING TAKEN "THE
INICIATIVE IN PREPARING AND PROVOKING NOT ONLY INDIVIDUAL ATROCITIES BUT ALSO
*MASS SLAUGHTER* OF NON-JEWS, Communists, Partisans and Serbs." ...

... Meanwhile, the new Croatian Democratic Union (CDU) government has taken steps to form a special police force
made up of "PURE CROATS WITHOUT MIXTURE OF OTHER BLOOD"...
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Zoja.

Good idea. I'll do exactly as you advised, but not to provide food for my country - it abounds in it. I'd better mutate and evolve into some poisonous fish whose caviar will get stuck in your transvestit throat causing the memories of your heavy sins back while you're in agony.

Don't buy Russian caviar any more, I might be a grain in the can, or a drop of vodka in the bottle.


   
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Zoja, hi sweets.
Can't miss the opportunity to drop you a line, lest you think I'm rude 🙂

Besides, you paid me almost whle 3 lines of text, that makes me 2 precious to you after Draza. That also makes me a very dedicated knight to you, oh pretty damsel in distress. Have to keep it up, then.

>Sergey loves to be in not only Stalin's shoes

From what I know of Stalin he usually wore leather army boots. Not my favourite. What about you?

> (shows his two faces, like Jozef could do,

Wow, could he? Rather queer knowledge of Russian history. In our fairy tales we had dragons (3 heads, one tail, breathes fire), our coat-of-arms is an eagle (2 heads, one tail again, doesn't breathe - he's a symbol), but Joseph had one face. That's for sure. You probably mistook him for someone else. :-))

>only Jozef was better),

He sure was. I'm baaaaaaaaaaad.

>but also in Slob Milo's.

?????????????????


> Poor guy,

Wish I were as rich as you are. Send me a spare million will you?

>his country obviously doesn't have freedom of speech long enough to really value it.

That's right, hon. It doesn't have freedom of speech at all. On all TV programs they say something I don't agree with.
Bad news for you is that all these programs don't agree with each other.

Cheer up, Zoja.
Anybody bugs you, you just call me.


   
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Zoja-Zpka
no need to go 'viva UCK',
we new long ago that you are albanian (albanian)
which, again, it's ok, until you started and kept on lying for weeks now;
not to mention all the insults and threaths you were directing towards people on this board.


   
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TO MAJA.
Stick to the subject yourself thats point number one.Second you and your Serbian Facist friends "ask me if id like to be raped" IS THAT STICKING TO TO THE SUBJECT? OH NO IS NOT IN MY OPIION THEY SHOULD ALL BE REMOVED!

Besides i only spoke about personal stuff in my introduction wanted to be honest about why i am on the board. AND YES WHAT DO YOU ALL DO USE IT AGAINST ME!
ISTHAT STICKING TO THE SUBJECT NO IT IS NOT!

SOWHO SHOULD REMOVE WHO?
I GLADLY DISCUSS EVEN TRIED ALL I GET IS INSULTS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT MY NATIONALITY!

IS THAT STICKING TO THE SUBJECT NO IT IS NOT!

YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS HERE STARTED IT ALL SO EASY TO BLAME SOMEONE ELSE IS IT NOT?.....YES IT IS YOU'VE ALL PRVEN IT.

TRYED TO BE SERIOUS WITH YOU....WHAT DO I GET HATE MAIL.
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TRY TO HONESTLY ANSWER SERGEY'S QUESTIONS WHAT DO I GET......HATE MAIL.

AND SO ON AND SO ON.

I DON'T NEED PITTY EITHER!

I PUT THE OLD POSTINGS THEIR SO MAYBE, JUST MAYBE YOU'D ALL SEETHE PATTERN, BUT NO OFCOURSE NOT YOU ALL DONT READ YOU RATHER HURT<HUMILIATE AND ALL.THIS MOSTLY GOES FOR YOUR DEAR FRIENDS.

LET THEM STICK TO THE SUBJECT THEN SEE IF WE CAN HONESTLY TALK, BUT FRANKLY I DOUBT IT....?

AND FOR ME GOES THE SAME NO MY ENGLISH IS BAD CAUSE I SPOKEBOSNIAN ALL MY LIFE AND A LITTLE DUTCH TO BE HONEST I CAN ONLY READ SLOVANIAN NOT WRITE NOT TALK. HAPPY?


   
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TO MAJA.

PS I FORGOT SOMETHING ALL THAT STUPIDITY ABOUT ZOJA MY TWINSISTER.

IS THAT STICKING TO THE SUBJECT NO WAY JOSE!

THE FACT THAT I SEEM TO HAVE A THOUSANT NAMES IS THAT STICKING TO THE SUBJECT.

NO WAY JOSE EITHER!

SO IF YOU AND YOUR LITTLE FVRIENDS CAN DISCUSS THINGS IN A SIVILIZED MANNER NO PROBLEM!!!!

I WOULD NOT HAVE TO DEFENT MYSELF EITHER THEN DO I?


   
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TO DAVID.
Hello david may please give you a piece of advise don't reveal anything personal here i made the mistake and it got grosly used against me.

I used to think that nato was right to do this but that was when they started. After some time i changed my opion and said i wasn't so sure anymore if this is the right thing to do.Cause i honestly feel for all parties involved in this mostly for the people getting the bombs on their head.

Yesterday on Dutch TV they had a 15 minute news item about the people in Novi Sad it hurted me.
But even though i say that they only kivck me down further.

I'd hate to see that it would happen to you as well, as you seem to have honest intentions.

Take care Emina


   
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-Thank you David, it gives me more hope to place in your country. Understandably I have felt a lot of hatred towards it recently

-Thanks to Maja for those posts, really informative. Post some more, it's more productive than trying to prove to the Zoja-Emina excrement that you are a better person, which we all know by now

-Pete Rose, let's check your spelling in Russian, obnoxious idiot

-Draza, your posts are fun, they are very...colourful; you deserve credit for saying "out loud" what some of us think but not post perhaps for fear of being vulgar. It is a shame you don't give us the Srpski version, creativity would be overwhelming although zoja-emina-kolina-rosie-zpka would not understand it

-Guido you give me reason for favouring death penalty

-Daniela thanks for the insight on our Croat ex-brothers. Remember: scratch a Croat, find a Kraut

-Zoja-Pierre-Frank-Ludwig-Meho-Albanopower, why do you bragg about the alliance between KLA and NATO ?

1) They are a terrorist organisation, so not your humanitarian kinda deal
2) You believe NATO, NATO says they are not working with KLA, so why criticise them ?
3) You write this minutes after a great post from Maja showing the comedy of the Racak "massacre"

You should read other people's stuff. Then you can think of something (new, that would be great) to add.

P.S. (you love these so much !) keep it above the waist, please ?

-D-S is getting more pitiful by the minute. Now he has to resort to criticising users' sexual organs. So what is next D-S ? Something wrong with Maja's breasts may be ? I'll tell you what, I got arthritis, why don't you base your next post on that and tell the other creeps how much you enjoy it when people suffer...

Can anyone tell me what the "RA" is, what is it they won, and why that would be bad news for me ?
I am really lost.


   
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