Archive through May 2, 1999 - Kosovo War

billybud — Mon, 03 May 1999 00:22:00 +0000

hey nick
what about all the kids, that will have to live the rest of their lives, without a dad.

billybud — Mon, 03 May 1999 00:18:00 +0000

Re: ethnic cleansing
look at it this way, if you stoll a dollar at a time from a pile of a hundred thousand how long could you do it with out being caught, probably awhile, that`s what S(sadistic) Milosevic was doing, but but on being caught he thought that he would try to steal the rest of the hundred thousand.

nick — Mon, 03 May 1999 00:15:00 +0000

The reason NATO admitted to losing 2 planes today is because Serbian TV showed it just in time before the blackout. So now you know why they are shooting antennas and power plants.

Why else would they do it ?

nick — Mon, 03 May 1999 00:06:00 +0000

Just to let you know, a hospital near the power plant hit in the last few hours is running on emergency power supply: 120 newborn babies on incubator will be in danger after the next 24 hours; seven life threatening surgeries were finished under these conditions.

What is the point of hitting a power plant again ?

billybud — Mon, 03 May 1999 00:01:00 +0000

not to worry about serbian economy, like all losers in this past century, they come out winners, look at japan and germany, both strong on the world money market,

billybud — Sun, 02 May 1999 23:47:00 +0000

it looks like the trophy photos will be mostly serb this time round

gnutzido — Sun, 02 May 1999 22:36:00 +0000

War is hell on earth. Normal people do abnormal things. These attrocities are commited by all peoples in war. No exceptions. Always have, always will.

daniela — Sun, 02 May 1999 20:34:00 +0000

>>>>>>>>> For example, in the African nation of Somalia,
peacekeepers on a U.S.-led mission were so brazen they
actually took pictures of their atrocities — trophy photos —
as souvenirs. Italian peacekeepers snapped away as they
pinned a man to the ground and allegedly shocked his
genitals with wires from a radio generator.
Other Italian peacekeepers took photos as they bound
a woman to an armored truck and allegedly raped her with
a flare gun. Peacekeepers from Belgium were photographed
roasting a boy over an open fire. A witness said the boy
went into shock after his clothes caught on fire. The soldiers
were acquitted of torture after the child couldn’t be located.
The peacekeepers claimed it was just a game to discourage
the boy from stealing.

AN INCREASING PROBLEM
‘It’s become
worse recently,
because U.N.
peacekeeping has
happened in much
greater scale and
volume.’
— JOHN HILLEN
Former U.S. peacekeeper
And these are only some of the cases we know about
because peacekeepers took trophy photos. Experts say
many more cases of wrong doing still haven’t come to light.
“Not only were these soldiers committing these
extraordinary crimes, but they’re actually documenting their
crimes themselves,” says John Hillen, a former peacekeeper
for the U.S. He’s now a senior fellow at the Center for
Strategic and International Studies who has written
extensively on peacekeeping and believes in it. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

daniela — Sun, 02 May 1999 20:19:00 +0000

THE ORWELLIAN LANGUAGE OF WAR by Norman Solomon Might doesn’t make right-except in the real world,
when it’s American might. Only someone of dubious
political orientation would split hairs about international law.
When the mass media in some foreign countries serve
as megaphones for the rhetoric of their government, the
result is ludicrous propaganda. When the mass media in our
country serve as megaphones for the rhetoric of the U.S.
government, the result is responsible journalism.
Unlike the TV anchors spouting the government line in
places like Sudan and Afghanistan, ours don’t have to be
told what to say. They have the freedom to report as they
choose.

LESSONS FROM ORWELL
“Circus dogs jump when the trainer cracks his whip,”
George Orwell observed, “but the really well-trained dog is
the one that turns his somersault when there is no whip.”
Orwell noted that language “becomes ugly and
inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the
slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have
foolish thoughts.” And his novel 1984 explained that “the
special function of certain Newspeak words ... was not so
much to express meanings as to destroy them.”
National security. Western values. The world
community. War against terrorism. Collateral damage.
American interests.
What’s so wondrous about Orwellian processes is that
they tend to be very well camouflaged — part of the normal
scenery. Day in and day out, we take them for granted. And
we’re apt to stay away from uncharted mental paths.
In 1984, Orwell wrote about the conditioned reflex of
“stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any
dangerous thought ... and of being bored or repelled by any
train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical
direction.”

DOUBLETHINK DEFINED
Doublethink: the
willingness to
forget any fact
that has become
inconvenient, and
then, when it
becomes
necessary again, to
draw it back from
oblivion for just so
long as it is
needed.

Orwell described “doublethink” as the willingness ... <<<<<<<<<<<

the whole one is at

www.msnbc.com/news/257902.asp

daniela — Sun, 02 May 1999 18:48:00 +0000

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- An Albanian couple who lived and worked in
America for little more than a year died Wednesday
after one of their neighbors and countrymen allegedly stabbed them
repeatedly, police said.

Koci Prifti, 37, allegedly turned his knife on himself after killing Ibrahim
Palluci, 44, and his wife, Shpresa, 40, in the couple's Mandarin
apartment, said Jacksonville police Sgt. Don Schoenfeld.

Prifti also allegedly attacked the couple's 17-year-old daughter, Ornela,
who managed to call 911 around 7 p.m., Schoenfeld said. The couple's
14-year-old daughter, who was unharmed, is staying with relatives, he
added.

The attack "came out of nowhere," he said. "We have no known
motive."