The Guardian 
 
 
Nuclear war, courtesy of Nato 
 
Kosovo, like Vietnam, has liberal support. But what of our weapons? 
 
By John Pilger 
Tuesday May 4, 1999 
 
 
The 'just and noble liberal war', in which Nato bombs have now 
incinerated people on a bus, having already killed passengers on a 
train, refugees on tractors, the elderly in a hostel, workers in 
factories and children in their homes, is not the first. Vietnam was a 
liberals' war, described as a 'righteous crusade' by Bill Clinton's 
hero, John Kennedy, and a 'noble cause' by Ronald Reagan, a 
conservative. The labels are important only as illusion, now that 
Clinton is Reagan and Blair is Thatcher. 
 
Nato's 'new vision' is to seek justification for American-led attacks 
all over the world. When communism retired from the cold war 
game, the 'war on drugs' was used to justify renewed American military 
intervention in Latin America. After that, the pursuit of 
demons took over. Demons are dictators of no further use to Washington. 
There was General Noriega in Panama, where the US 
invasion cost 2,000 lives, and Saddam Hussein in Iraq (200,000 lives) 
and various warlords in Somalia (7,000 lives). Now it is the turn 
of Milosevic, with whom Clinton and Blair share responsibility for 
emptying most of Kosovo. 
 
Demons as a justification for attacking countries have since been 
reinforced by Weapons of Mass Destruction, or WMD. These are 
chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, the possession of which, says 
Nato literature, 'may require pre-emptive retaliation'. The 
ferocity of the continuing military and economic assault on Iraq is 
justified in this way - when the real reason has to do with the 
policing of an expanded American protectorate from the Gulf to the 
Caspian Sea. 
 
The hypocrisy is on a grand scale. Only one nation on earth has used all 
three WMDs: the United States. Smallpox was used to 
ethnically cleanse Native Americans and to spread plague in Cuba. 
Chemicals were used in Vietnam: between 1961 and 1971, 
American planes dropped on South Vietnam a defoliant, Agent Orange, 
which contained dioxin, a poison that causes foetal death, 
congenital defects and cancer (this was code-named Operation Hades). 
 
When a Congressional inquiry revealed that the equivalent of six pounds 
of dioxin had been dumped on every man, woman and child 
in South Vietnam, Operation Hades was changed to the friendlier 
Operation Ranch Hand, and the spraying continued. A pattern of 
deformities began to emerge: babies born without eyes, with deformed 
hearts and small brains and stumps instead of legs. I 
glimpsed these children in contaminated villages in the Mekong Delta; 
and whenever I asked about them, people pointed to the sky; 
one man scratched in the dust a good likeness of a bulbous C-130 
aircraft, spraying. In the towns and cities, it was not unusual to 
see deformed children begging. They were known as 'Agent Orange babies'. 
 
Recently, at the Tu Do hospital in Saigon, I was shown a group of 
newborn babies, all of whom had Agent Orange deformities. The 
war that officially ended in 1975 goes on; contaminated soil and water 
are poisoning a third generation. Unlike American and 
Australian veterans of the war, who have been finally compensated by the 
manufacturers of dioxin, the Vietnamese have received 
nothing. Now a five-year Canadian study has discovered that dioxin runs 
right through Vietnam's food chain and has called for 
international help in decontaminating agricultural land, forests and 
waterways. The cost of one F-16 bomber would pay for this. 
 
'Can you imagine pilots from a democratic country doing such a thing 
deliberately?' said Jamie, the Nato spin doctor, following the 
craven killing of refugees by an F-16 pilot. Today, the same pilots are 
spreading over Serbia and Kosovo a poison potentially as 
cataclysmic as Agent Orange. It is carried in depleted uranium, which 
makes missiles and shells more destructive. This is how 
Rosalie Bertell, a Canadian specialist, describes the effects on humans: 
'Depleted uranium comes from radioactive waste produced 
for nuclear weapons and the nuclear industry. It can pierce tanks and 
release a deadly radioactive aerosol of uranium, unlike 
anything seen before. This lies in the dust or is suspended in the air, 
or carried in the wind. It penetrates the lung tissue and enters 
the blood stream, storing in the liver, kidney and bone and irradiating 
all the delicate tissues. It can initiate cancer or promote 
cancer.' 
 
The truth is that the US and Britain are engaged in a form of nuclear 
warfare in the Balkans. In 1996, the United Nations Human 
Rights Tribunal called depleted uranium a WMD. Like the Agent Orange 
babies of Vietnam, the deformed and cancer-stricken 
children of southern Iraq, where depleted uranium was tested by British 
and American forces during the 1991 Gulf war, bear witness 
to the true nature of righteous Western crusades. Civilised people 
should speak out urgently before the latest noble cause claims 
more expendable victims and beckons a world war. No amount of specious 
moralising will conceal the scale of the crime. 
 
For fair non-commercial use only.
THE AGE  
MAY 20, 1999 
 
KOSOVARS [sic!] LOOK FOR BEST DEAL 
 
By JANINE MacDONALD  
 
CANBERRA  
 
Australia is slipping on the list of preferred countries for Kosovar 
refugees who are ``destination shopping'' and have heard reports 
that other countries are offering better conditions and assistance, 
it has been claimed. 
 
According to a source connected with Operation Safe Haven, 
refugees are looking for the most favorable 
destination, knowing 
they may spend up to a year there. 
 
In Australia, which is allegedly struggling to attract its quota of 
4000 refugees, newly arrived Kosovars are becoming disappointed after swapping information with relatives in other 
asylum countries, including Canada, Germany and the United 
States. 
 
The Australian Albanian community wants the Federal Government to increase its weekly payment of $20 to the 
refugees and to improve conditions at the two army camps used 
so far - Vic-toria's Puckapunyal and Tasmania's Brighton 
Barracks. 
 
The Government yesterday denied the existence of ``destination 
shopping'' and said Australia's offer was generous, but admitted 
the weekly payment was under review. 
 
A spokesman for the Immigration Minister, Mr Philip Ruddock, 
said that ``by any objective measure Australia's contribution is 
certainly generous''. 
 
Germany's weekly payment is 80 marks, or about $67. But 
officials say other factors influencing the refugees' decisions 
include the doubling of Germany's intake from 10,000 to 20,000 
after a temporary halt. Many Kosovar Albanians speak German 
and have relatives in Europe. 
 
Albanian leaders in Australia have presented the Department of 
Immigration and Multicultural Affairs with a list of demands, 
outlining concerns about privacy and facilities for different 
religions - mainly Muslim and Catholic - and calling for 
long-term employment and/or education plans as well as access 
to welfare payments and Medicare. 
 
They want inside toilets to be built, padlocks for doors, small 
fridges to keep milk in their units, and more money.  
 
The chairman of the Australian-Albanian national council, Mr 
Erik Lloga, said the Government had to take a 
long-term view of 
what it could provide and start planning. He said English 
language training will occupy the first two to three months. 
 
``Australia is the only country that does not grant them full rights 
as refugees,'' he said. ``They need a place to call home.''
VINI VIDI VICI
“The Big Lie” at Work  
 
Most people cling to their belief in fiction — that is to say things which may be suppositions or direct lies, or myths, or things for which realistic 
substantiation has not been provided — far more passionately than they cling to their belief in “truth”; that is, fact-based or evidentially-based realities. 
Partly this is because belief in things which have been accepted as “fact” can be modified by the production of newer facts, without affecting the ego, 
or sense of self-worth of the individual. Beliefs which are based on faith alone, and which accord with some sense of correctness within the individual’s 
own logic system (but which are not necessarily rooted in facts or evidence), are cleaved close to the breast. That is because, in order to have faith and 
to believe based merely on a command to believe a given thing involves committing one’s sense of identity. To doubt one’s beliefs casts doubt on 
one’s sense of identity, and identity is the key to self-esteem and survival.  
 
Once a target audience believes in something, based, say, on the statement of a credible leader or leaders, backed by trusted institutions, it is difficult 
to dislodge that belief even though massive and overwhelming evidence is produced. And when a leader, supported by various institutions, creates 
belief based on a direct lie in a confused situation, where refutative evidence is difficult to produce (or cannot be heard in the clutter of blood-lust and 
zeal), then it can reasonably be expected that the truth may never prevail. Or it may emerge so late as to be of little value. In some instances, it takes 
the passage of considerable time, perhaps generations, before societies can accept that certain historically-held beliefs were false, and based solely on 
lies.  
 
In order to move societies in the direction leaders wish them to go, it is necessary to appeal to belief systems. In normal times, the entreaties of leaders 
are subject to a process of debate and logical evaluation by target audiences and by key opinion-shapers. In times of urgency, disaster, chaos or 
national emergency, the normal pattern of critical evaluation is lost as the need to confront a perceived common threat dominates the entire society. 
Clearly, under such circumstances, leaders (and situations) often cannot tolerate the delay, division and hesitancy caused by a process of debate. It is 
easier to coalesce the minds of the leader’s target audiences by crystallizing the argument in such a way that debate is not even considered. If a lie 
moves the audience in the desired fashion, then a lie is often used.  
 
Often, it is true that “the bigger the lie, the more easier to sway the audience”; a lie so overwhelming in its audacity that it is inconceivable to believe that 
it could be undertaken. This is often justified by the claim that the end justifies the means.  
 
But what if the leader’s desired ends are themselves open to question? Or what if, by using lies to achieve ends, injustices are committed or societies 
irrevocably changed for the worse? And if the leader is from a democratically-based system of government, is he ethically able to use such “big lie” 
tactics and still claim to be the legitimate leader of an electorally-based state?  
 
Most experienced policy professionals would say that it is sometimes necessary to be “economical with the truth” in order to preserve security, morale 
or the process of speedy decisionmaking. But that is very different from basing an entire strategic posture on a bedrock of lies, promoted in such a way 
as to create a destructive set of beliefs in the minds of one’s own citizens or foreign target audiences.  
 
What we are seeing now in the so-called Kosovo Crisis is the use of “the big lie” technique on such a massive and repeated scale, primarily by the 
Clinton White House, that it has laid the foundation for the destruction of a stable global environment. That is in the medium-term. In the short-term, it 
is leading rapidly into a war with no meaningful goals, no prospect for an easy resolution, and with costs which will severely damage the economies not 
only of Yugoslavia, but also Western Europe (indeed all NATO countries) and Eastern Europe for some time to come.  
 
For what?  
 
[...] 
 
 http://www.strategicstudies.org/crisis/newrome.htm #-NATO
NATO is using radoactive deplated Uranium shells in Kosovo.  They are 
making Kosovo into a nuclear wasteland (bombs + radioactivity). 
 
This means that when this war is over, everybody returning to Kosovo, 
particularly the beloved Albanian refugees, will not need electricity. 
 
They will all glow in the dark!!! 
The still born, the mutations and the child deformities. 
 
With "friends" like the US and England, you do not need enemies.
The US is teaching Yugoslavia a lesson in human rights and democracy. 
So let us see its track record. 
 
The Yugoslav track record: 
In Yugoslavia, the Kosovo Albanians had the rights to their own 
language, their own schools and universities and they still do.  Serbs 
never attempted to assimilate the Kosovo Albanians into Serbia.  The 
payback for this is that the nationalists amongst Kosovo Albanians 
wanted to separate Kosovo from Serbia and join it to Albania. 
 
The US track record: 
In the US, in California, the Proposition 227 bans the use of Spanish 
language in schools.  This is a first step towards forced assimilation 
by removing the rights of Latino's to their own language.  More bans are 
in the planning.  The US Administrations, both state and federal, are 
gradually reducing the rights of ethnic minorities.  At the same time, 
they are bombing for "human rights" half way around the world. 
 
A new word in the English language - Clintonesque (adverb, refers to 
something that both is and is not, has been done but also has not, makes 
sense and does not). 
 
One thing is for sure - the US understands very well the danger of 
ethnic instability.  This is why the US are curbing the rights of own 
ethnic minorities and promoting ethnic conflict in Yugoslavia, Russia, 
China and India. 
 
Yugoslavia is just a dress rehersal for the future.  In the future, the 
US and NATO will become the chief "protectors" of ethnic human rights in 
China and India. 
 
Then, there will be nuclear wars.
WAR POWERS ACT - 60 DAYS ALMOST GONE 
 
With the 60 days almost gone (Tomorrow is the last day). How will this affect the situation? Can Clinton still continue to keep U.S. forces involved? 
 
Since this is a NATO activity, does this somehow alter or negate the WPA? What will happen if he continues to involve the U.S.? What of Rep. Bob Campbell's suit to stop the involvement? 
 
- To: JosephW 
 
The War Powers Act is only meaningful if congress 
decides to act on it, which, given the repeated, craven 
failures of the leadership, is extremely unlikely. 
Clinton has shown that he will do whatever he damn well 
pleases, and no one seems to be inclined to stop him. 
He governs by executive decree and media pandering, and 
couldn't care less about congress any more.  
 
- From: Cicero  5/22/1999 13:18:13 PDT 
 
 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  
 
- To: jpsb 
 
Agree. Congress is spinless to do the right thing. Also 
they are abdicating their responsibility. The waging of 
war has become a "1984" experience in the US. They 
don't even call it war. If I were president, I would 
proceed based on the funding and just step over a 
sleeping Congress. 
 
- From: MsFreedumb99  5/22/1999 13:20:37 PDT 
 
Jai Maharaj 
Latest world news at: 
 http://www.flex.com/~jai/topnews.html 
The bombardment of Yugoslavia is predominantly an Anglo-Saxon war.  Here is case in point. 
 
BBC World, 21 May 1999 
Fair non-commercial use only 
 
            SALMOND LAUNCHES NEW ATTACK ON NATO 
 
             Alex Salmond is vigorously opposed to the bombing campaign 
             The leader of the Scottish National Party, Alex Salmond, 
             has renewed his criticism of Nato's action in Serbia. 
 
                            Mr Salmond said that two months of 
                            bombing had made things "infinitely 
                            worse" for the people of Kosovo, and 
                            had created "a humanitarian 
                            catastrophe". 
 
                            Civilian deaths in the conflict could 
                            not be justified, he said. 
 
                            The nationalist leader was 
                            condemned at the beginning of the 
             election campaign for the Scottish Parliament, when he 
             described the bombing as "unpardonable folly" in a 
             televised address to the Scottish people. 
 
                                 And his latest remarks have 
                                 prompted a vigorous 
                                 response from the Defence 
                                 Secretary George Robertson. 
 
                                 "Nato is taking action against 
                                 Milosevic's military machine 
                                 to end the genocidal violence 
                                 against the Kosovars and to 
                                 enable them to return to their 
                                 homes in safety," he said. 
 
                                 "Nato never targets 
                                 civilians.Those who say 'stop 
             now' would consign hundreds of thousands of Kosovars 
             to permanent exile. 
 
             "Just at the point when Milosevic is under maximum 
             pressure, it is time for Nato and all who believe in 
             humanity to stand firm and keep their nerve." 
 
             Following Mr Salmond's initial criticism of the Nato 
             campaign, Foreign Secretary Robin Cook said he would 
             be the "toast of Belgrade" for his anti-bombing stance, 
             which commentators suggested had cost his party 
             votes. 
 
             Now Mr Salmond has called for a debate on the crisis in 
             the Scottish Parliament, which has no power over foreign 
             policy. 
 
             'Spilling of blood cannot be justified' 
 
             Writing in the Sunday Herald newspaper he said: "The 
             original reason for the action was to prevent a 
             humanitarian disaster. 
 
             "In fact, a hugely dangerous and uncertain position for 
             the Kosovar people has been turned into a humanitarian 
             catastrophe. 
 
             "Unless we take the position that the ordinary people of 
             Serbia have a particular responsibility for the crimes of 
             Milosevic and his henchmen then the spilling of blood 
             cannot be justified." 
 
 
                                 Mr Salmond argued that 
                                 support should be given to 
                                 the efforts of Russian envoy 
                                 Victor Chernomyrdin and 
                                 Finnish President Martti 
                                 Ahtesari. 
 
                                 He saw promise in attempts 
                                 to include the Chinese and 
                                 Russians in a deal which 
                                 could secure a ceasefire in 
                                 Kosovo, end the bombing 
                                 campaign, and lead to a 
                                 return of the refugees. 
 
             He said the United Nations should have had a bigger role 
             in the crisis, and that effective sanctions should have 
             been imposed on Milosevic, whom he calls a gangster. 
 
             But he paid tribute to British servicemen. He said: "There 
             is support for service personnel who have been landed 
             with the extraordinarily difficult taks of prosecuting this 
 
             conflict on our behalf. 
 
             'Prevailing winds of folly' 
 
             "However, the politicians who give orders are not above 
             criticism. 
 
             "Since this war started a Scots Parliament has come 
             into being, albeit one with no competence in foreign 
             affairs. 
 
             "However, it has the right to speak on anything it 
             chooses. 
 
             "Scotland's new politics should not restrict itself simply 
             to the domestic. Our Parliament must not be shut away 
             in a shortbread tin. 
 
             "And when our Parliament does speak, then let us hope 
             it finds the courage, when necessary, to speak with a 
             different accent on such matters than the prevailing 
             winds of folly from Westminster."
Afroditis, 
 
All my life I have been living in countries with a past, however, not in America, contrary to Maja and Nick. I have even never been to the country! 
 
So, I am very well aware of histroy. Actually, even America is full of ancient history, but you may not realise that, not having taken the trouble of finding out. 
 
I was only trying to tell you that you don't make any sense on the Macedonia subject. Your posting is not understandable. So, don't get all exited now, and calmly and clearly explain it again. Meaybe it leads to me tolerating YOU better! 
 
Zoja
To All the Guido's, Emina, Jack, Rosie. 
 
Isn't it great how our beloved patriots byte all the time?? Just like dogs when you hold a sausage in front of their noses. Look at Maja, for example. She thinks she can tell Emina and me all the time we are the same, we and Rosie are bithces, Guido is a stupid moron, Jack is a killer, etc, but if you get back at her..... What do you think, guys, keep it up for a little while longer? 
 
Most of the Serbian conscripted soldiers are drifting towards deserting anyway, so in a little while, Nato doesn't even have to think about ground troops anymore, and these poor lads finally get to go home, where they belong. 
 
Long live a FREE and DEMOCRATIC (o, sorry, let me spell that d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t-i-c) Serbia! 
 
Zoja
To Maja (MALA) 
 
The fact you don't even know that in Bosina people call their language Bosnian, goes to prove you have not been in touch with the region for a looooong time. Do you REALLY think Bosnians would keep on calling their incereasingly different dialect SERBIAN??? No way! It's B-O-S-A-N-S-K-I-, hvala puna! 
 
Zoja
The correct quote is: 
 
VENI, VIDI, VICI 
 
Now I have seen everything: This analphabete quoting Latin. 
 
It's like jack london studying for Priesthood or zoja-emina applying for a Supreme Court Judge vacancy. 
 
I saw a short interview of a man from Huntsville, Texas. He said there were 160,000 people living there, of which 50% are prison inmates (!). He said there were many "prison cities" such as Huntsville in the USA. The CNN analyst said that the USA were the country in the world featuring democracy regime with the biggest number of citizens in jail. 
 
I wonder: which side of the bars is guido on ? As far as we know, he could be having is PC right there inside his cell. Now that would explain a lot, wouldn't it ? 
 
We already know he can't read, if he knew then why would he have taken my last post as a reply to his whereas it was to zoja's. 
 
Sad, sad, sad.
By Zoja on Sunday, May 23, 1999 - 07:06 am: 
 
"Afroditis,  
 
All my life I have been living in countries with a past" 
 
And with no future. 
 
No, that's bull. You have probably been stuck in Albania or Croatia all your life, and chances are you will never set foot outside. I can tell from your anti-Serb attitude which comes straight from the Croat TV programs engineered by Tudjman showing drunk, fat, evil and rapist Serbs all day. 
 
"however, not in America, contrary to Maja and Nick. I have even never been to the country! " 
 
We all gathered that. Probably for lack of valid papers. What's the matter ? Did you forget to apply with Hacim Taqui ? A bit late now, good riddance. 
 
"So, I am very well aware of histroy." 
 
Ha ! How close are you to the Phd ? Since you know so well, why don't you tell us, in your own words, what really happened in those countries you boast about, taking your time because your emotions often get in the way of your typing, so we can eventually learn something. 
 
"Actually, even America is full of ancient history," 
 
At least, oof...223 years ! "Ancient", does it start from the beginning of the 20th Century ? 
 
Do you know the US history ? I thought you had never set foot there. Perhaps you took a course over the internet, or through mail order. 
 
"but you may not realise that, not having taken the trouble of finding out." 
 
I wouldn't do that, challenging Afroditis on history grounds. Maybe you want to call Serguei Bubka and advise him to switch to a different composite pole ?  
 
"I was only trying to tell you that you don't make any sense on the Macedonia subject." 
 
And you're one to talk and judge. 
 
"Your posting is not understandable. So, don't get all exited now, and calmly and clearly explain it again." 
 
And you lecture too ! Maybe you are a Phd at University of Zagreb or Tirana (is there such a thing ?) 
 
"Meaybe it leads to me tolerating YOU better!" 
 
I am sure that was Afroditis' goal, tolerance from you. Boy, are we getting obnoxious. Isn't the meaning of tolerance about ALLOWING others to voice opinions (post them), or is it that only some posts in agreement with Zoja's line of thinking are acceptable on this board ?
It's puno hvala, even I know this and I am French. You do not speak the language, even US people know how to write "thank you".
