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http://www.sv-vaznesenje.org/forums/news/posts/116.htmlJ. P. Maher Ph.D. Emeritus Professor, Chicago


J. P. Maher Ph.D. Emeritus Professor, Chicago

Letter to the Guardian: Dubrovnik hoax again, by

J. P. Maher Ph.D. Emeritus Professor, Chicago
10/11/00






Sir:

Your piece mentions the "...pounding of the beautiful Croatian town of
Dubrovnik in 1991. 'They used ships. Can you believe it?'...

This is a fraud. Who on your staff was bought by Ruder Finn? Since 1991
the press has dozens of times printed the hoax that the Pearl of the
Adriatic was reduced to rubble. Those stories were fakes. That Dubrovnik
has been rebuilt is exponentially fake. On March 25, 1992, I visited
Dubrovnik to see for myself the truth about the war. The Old City of
Dubrovnik was never destroyed. It was barely scratched.

Roof tiles blown off by concussion had all been replaced when I
visited the city TWO YEARS AGO, THREE MONTHS after the "destruction".
Your writer has a poor vocabulary in English. Buildings are "holed."
"Hoardings," which your Yank readers will not understand, is the British
equivalent of American "billboard." "Casing" is also wrong. The right
term would be (protective) "planking". The new tiles are decidedly not
"pink", but red.

Dubrovnik's destruction was an invention of PR companies in the hire of
the war criminals who broke up Yugoslavia without negotiations. The big
bombardment was from PR fakers, not navy guns. -- like the Kuwaiti
incubator babies hoax used by President Bush to stoke up war fever. PR
liars Hill & Knowlton, Ruder Finn, and Waterman Associates have earned
millions in fanning the flames of this war.

The press, that's you, belongs in the war crimes docket with the New
World Order thugs for churning out mendacious "news" stories about Serb
death camps and rape camps, abetting war and mayhem. The story of an
organized Serb rape policy is a racist fraud, like the Protocols of the
Elders of Zion, propagated to foment hatred and incite war against the
innocent. Though it's not polite any more to slander Afro-American or
Jews, Serbs are fair game for the lynch mob.

The "Serb-dominated federal navy" off Dubrovnik was commanded by
Admiral Stane Brovet, a Slovene. The target was not the Old City, but
the Napoleonic fort of St. Sergius far above Dubrovnik and hotels
outside the city walls, where Croatian forces were billeted and because
of the presence of refugees, had set up gun positions from which they
fired on the federal forces in order to provoke death and destruction.
Zagreb's aim was to provoke a Western attack on the Serbs. On December
5, 1991, Croatian forces mounted a mortar on a flat bed truck running
up and down the Stradun taking potshots at naval forces in order to
provoke counterfire.

The "Dubrovnik burning" pictures were shot with long lenses. This
compresses perspective, making it look like there is no distance between
objects that are quite separated in real space. Thus, columns of smoke
billowing up from the harbor are superimposed on the walled city. The
photographic effect is as staged as the stabbing of the lady showering
in Hitchcock's movie "Psycho."

That smoke was from the fuel tanks of two pleasure boats burning in the
Old Harbor -- outside, of course, the walls. Dubrovnik's Old City
never burned. Bullet holes along Stradun were from gunfire inside the
walls, at ground level at close range in a fight on the street between
rival Croatian factions. Scaffolding was set up in front of facades in
anticipation of the shooting to come. Video tapes of gunfire along the
ancient walls, run backward, show clearly that the puffs of gun smoke
are from outgoing, not incoming fire. "Western" reporters in Dubrovnik
since they cannot read Serbo-Croatian, do not mention the graffiti
calling for the lynching of Serbs: Srbe na vrbe (literally " the
Serbs on the willow trees"). My videotapes of Dubrovnik from March 25,
1992, have been aired on Chicago Cable Access TV, Channel 19. Want to
see them?

Croatian city? Tito made a gift of it to his native Croatia after WW II.
Dubrovnik was never before "Croatian."

The Byzantine decoration found by restorators beneath paint in the
Dominican monastery attests the Serbian and Greek origins of Dubrovnik.
This war is the latest chapter in the predation of Orthodox lands by the
Western Church. (I'm RC, by the way.) The only building in the Old City
of Ragusa to be gutted by explosives and fire was the one housing a
priceless collection of medieval manuscripts and icons. It was not navy
guns that did the damage, but plastique and incendiary devices planted
on the spot by Croatian forces. Enter it on your map, across the street
from the Orthodox church, which you fail to note is Serbian. -- 3,000
Serb and 7,000 Croat refugees from Dubrovnik have taken refuge -- in
Belgrade.]]> Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/3/#post-29124 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/3/#post-29123 Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:44:00 +0000
i _thanked_ you and daniela for material you'd
posted at the bottom of that post of mine...

nothin to get jiggy over, comrade.

as for kostunica, whom would you like instead?
doesnt appear to be a NATO buttkiss to moi.]]> Kosovo War L'menexe https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/3/#post-29123 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29122 Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:06:00 +0000
Just out of interest, how much as gone into funding the candidates in the presidential race in the US this year?]]> Kosovo War kimarx https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29122 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29121 Wed, 11 Oct 2000 12:19:00 +0000
"Still, if Milosevic is not to be trusted, why not accept the assurances and congratulations offered to Kostunica by thehighest representatives of the
army and police? It seems that DOS's fear of one man and his presence is so great, that not even the fact that those institutions didn't react
during Thursday's vandalistic demonstrations can reassure the Serbian opposition.

Perhaps the DOS is simply being aware of its own fragility: from the very beginning, it has been highly dependent on foreign support and money.
This ad hoc alliance of some 18 parties has only one common ground and program - to oust Milosevic.

Not to forget that the DOS candidate, newly-proclaimed FRY president Kostunica, is a leader of a small party with low support from the people, and
a man of low significance. The person running the show for this particular puppet on a string is Zoran Djindjic, who in his own turn is a puppet of
the administration in Washington.

Not to forget that over 2 million Yugoslav citizens voted against Kostunica precisely for the above mentioned reasons, knowing who the powers
behind DOS are and not wanting to be a part of "Pax Americana".



"I didn't vote for Kostunica, he is nobody!" says Milan Ristic (24), a student from Belgrade. "But his victory might bring better days for Yugoslavia. I
voted against Milosevic...


http://www.sv-vaznesenje.org/forums/news/posts/113.html]]> Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29121 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29120 Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:45:00 +0000 I mean't it was "funny" that so much money should be spent on the opposition and they still didn't the candidate they wanted! According to Daniela's post. you are contradicting yourselves.

And don't lecture me on interference by the US, if it wasn't for the amount of money raised in the states to fund the IRA each year a few more people might still be alive in England and Ireland.
You choose to live in the sodding place, I have never been there and have little desire to go there. I have travelled to South America, Africa, Russia, the Baltics, the balkans and eastern Europe. Been there talked to the people, lived with them, worked with them. I don't get my information from a bunch of cranks, who pose as "intrigue experts"
You seem to have a personal problem adding up the fact that you profit from the very system you are knocking. Is that why you support a "politician" who has consistently placed his own ambitions above those of the country he is supposed to represent. I guess its fine when its not happening at your backdoor.

If you don't mind, I'd like to see how Kostunica and Serbia get on for a while, before I decide on the truth.

And stop putting words in my mouth, thanks
"And please spare the excuse that it's all the result of their communist legacy. That's a red herring if there........bla bla bla.
Do you think you are the only one who can see what is going on in the world???????????]]> Kosovo War kimarx https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29120 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29119 Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:48:00 +0000 http://www.kosovo.com/crucified/

http://www.kosovo.com/crucified/sp-amfilohije.html

Introductory word
by His Holiness
Patriarch Pavle

This humble publication is our cry and appeal to the Christian
and civilized world. It is distressing to learn that in the year of the
greatest Christian Jubilee, at the end of two milleniums of
Christianity, Christian churches are still being destroyed -- not in
a war but in the time of peace guaranteed by the international
community. We hope that these photos of the destroyed and
desecrated Orthodox shrines will stir the consciousness of those
who are in a position to stop the crimes and we believe that
those who already stood up against one evil will not remain mere
witnesses passively watching another kind of evil take place
before their eyes.

We also wish to make our appeal to all Kosovo Albanians, who
undoubtedly see their future in coexistence with the Serbs, to
resist and not allow the acts of insanity to happen.

In Kosovo and Metohija there will be no victory of humanity and justice while revenge and disorder prevail.
No one has a moral right to celebrate victory complacently for as long as one kind of evil replaces another
and the freedom of one people rests upon the slavery of another.

Patriarch Pavle


http://www.kosovo.com/crucified/intro-patriarch.html]]> Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29119 https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29118 Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:38:00 +0000
OF THE SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCHES AND MONASTERIES
IN KOSOVO AND METOHIJA


http://www.decani.yunet.com/destruction.html


INTERNATIONAL PRESS ON DESECRATIONS

The Montreal Gazette, GOD'S HOUSES IN RUINS

NATO Turns the Blind Eye as Scores of Ancient Christian Churches
Are Reduced to Rubble, The Independent, UK, Nov 20, 99
***
LA Times, Christian Sites Being Decimated in Kosovo
Boston Globe, Serb Kosovo Heritage in Peril
SPECTATOR - Christmas Desecrations in Kosovo
BHHR, Christmas in Kosovo

KESTON, Kosovo: Attacks on Decani Monastery, July 31, 00
KESTON, Dynamiting of Orthodox Churches Continues, July 31, 00


ETC]]> Kosovo War daniela https://www.viexpo.com/kosovo-war/archive-through-october-11-2000/paged/2/#post-29118