https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/ Disaster Message Service Discussion Board en-US Fri, 22 May 2026 21:16:46 +0000 wpForo 60 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/4/#post-22980 Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:16:00 +0000 Apti Batalov, "military chief of staff" and "brigadier general" was captured on 04-13.

Russians only say that they are talking to Maskhadov so the West can take a break from whining.

START-2 passed, meaning Russia will get more money from US to dispose of nukes, in reality they will use it to develope better ones. (And maybe sell their old ones to Iran.. not. Heh.)

Life is good, ALLAHU AKHBAR!]]> Second Chechen War chechenyonok https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/4/#post-22980 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/4/#post-22979 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:15:00 +0000 Dead right. - Milo had been elected.
Blaming "it all" on him is incorrect (and useless). Jim Jatras was right.
Any Serb Govt. leader (as any govt. leader) would pursue state integrity.]]> Second Chechen War kisako https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/4/#post-22979 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/4/#post-22978 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:30:00 +0000 Second Chechen War igor https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/4/#post-22978 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/4/#post-22977 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:25:00 +0000
"Thousands of people are being looted by the Russians and the mujahideen are returning back their money."

Where did you get that from! And certainly they are sending humanitarian aid to refugees' HAHAHA!

" "Secretly escape?" I call it strategic withdrawal. "

Yes indeed, it's a better strategy to withdraw as far as they can while letting the others die at the frontline.

"Disparity in numbers, disparity in armor, disparity in aviation. "

Not disparity: Miscalculation by the mujahedeen. The militants didn't expect Russsia to send so many troops and to fight so sharply and awaited a second 94-96war downturn again insteed.

"The mujahideen have one thing the Russians ain't got: Faith in God. This sums it all."

That's why they die, that's why they lose every fight, that's why they are poor and miserable.
Because God doesn't support war and warrior (mujahedeen) are sinners.
They are going to lose even the last thing they get, theyr faith in God as soon as they will discover that the Jihad is crooked.
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Dimitri,
You have one but it's not very visible on the pic.
Did you notice, Igor hands the biggest gun?
And URN makes a sing as "we will cut them".

http://www.itn.co.uk/Britain/brit20000413/pics/Chechnya_lg.jpg]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/4/#post-22977 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22976 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:22:00 +0000
"Thousands of people are being looted by the Russians and the mujahideen are returning back their money."

Where did you get that from! And certainly they are sending humanitarian aid to refugees' HAHAHA!

" "Secretly escape?" I call it strategic withdrawal. "

Yes indeed, it's a better strategy to withdraw as far as they can while letting the others die at the frontline.

"Disparity in numbers, disparity in armor, disparity in aviation. "

Not disparity: Miscalculation by the mujahedeen. The militants didn't expect Russsia to send so many troops and to fight so sharply and awaited a second 94-96war downturn again insteed.

"The mujahideen have one thing the Russians ain't got: Faith in God. This sums it all."

That's why they die, that's why they lose every fight, that's why they are poor and miserable.
Because God doesn't support war and warrior (mujahedeen) are sinners.
They are going to lose even the last thing they get, theyr faith in God as soon as they will discover that the Jihad is crooked.
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Dimitri,
You have one but it's not very visible on the pic.
Did you notice, Igor hands the biggest gun?
And URN makes a sing as "we will cut them".

http://www.itn.co.uk/Britain/brit20000413/pics/Chechnya_lg.jpg]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22976 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22975 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:49:00 +0000
Without him (Milosevic), banditism and destabilization in the Balkan wouldn't have spread as a counter effect of bad policy.]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22975 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22974 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:45:00 +0000 I agree with Wimmer's view on Kososvo. Nato is muded in and Us and Europe are completely unable to cope with the crisis.

Nevertheless, don't forget that poeple in Serbia don't like Milosevic and are demonstrating against him. They hate him.

It's also probable that without him, the Kosovo war wouldn't have occured.
Why Serbia and Serbia only became Nato's ennemy Nr1? Because of Milosevic. Not because of his freindship with Russia. Russia didn't help Serbia so much when it was bombed out. And I never heard Putin speaking favorably of Milosevic.
Why Ukraina which is ethnicaly as close to Russia as Serbia is, if not more, is not in the same case?
Because they don't have someone like Lukashenko or Milosevic as head of state.

Milosevic, Lukashenko and ZIUGANOV are the last living fossiles of soviet era who want as much nuclear warheads as to destroy 10 000 times life on Earth.
The same with Sadam Hussein.

Ok, Nato and EU are idiots but the root of the problem is in Milosevic. Without him, the fight against banditism and destabilization in the Balkan wouldn't have spread as a counter effect of bad policy.]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22974 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22973 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:23:00 +0000
"In corruption cases the briber is to blame as much as the bribed. In this case the bribers are the twice immoral so called mujahedeen who vow to fight to death and secretely escape the battlefield with the Jihad's money (fake on top of that)."

Thousands of people are being looted by the Russians and the mujahideen are returning back their money. I don't see any problems with that. "Secretly escape?" I call it strategic withdrawal.


"Theyr are crooks who run away while young chechen boys are being killed and tortured."

So you're admitting that the Russians did commit atrocities.

"Money=High tec weapon. The rebels have or had all the weapon that a guerrilla fighter can cary. They had ammunition caches, anti aircraft units and even armored vehicles and a plane.
They got all the weapon Hallah would buy if he was a mujahedeen."

Laughable. Disparity in numbers, disparity in armor, disparity in aviation.

"If they had as many soldier as the russians do with as much weapon per man as they used to have at the begining of the conflict, they would be the strongest army in the world. But there isn't 200 000 islamic troops in Chechenya because they didn't find enough brainwashed fool to
die there."

The mujahideen have one thing the Russians ain't got: Faith in God. This sums it all.]]> Second Chechen War onlooker https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22973 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22972 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:04:00 +0000 regarding the pic - I need to have a big gun too..hook me up with it, will ya?
;)]]> Second Chechen War dimitri https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22972 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22971 Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:50:00 +0000
"How is the foreign money getting in there?"
Money is the easiest thing to bring.


"Who is to blame: the one who "bribes" someone or the one who is getting "bribed" (in this case the immoral Russian officers)??? "

In corruption cases the briber is to blame as much as the bribed.

In this case the bribers are the twice immoral so called mujahedeen who vow to fight to death and secretely escape the battlefield with the Jihad's money (fake on top of that).
Theyr are crooks who run away while young chechen boys are being killed and tortured.

"What difference does the money have when the fighters don't have 1/10th of what Russia has? Aviation support, superior armor, fuel/aerosal/2 ton bombs, 200,000 troops? Isn't this what we call disparity?"

Money=High tec weapon. The rebels have or had all the weapon that a guerrilla fighter can cary. They had ammunition caches, anti aircraft units and even armored vehicles and a plane.
They got all the weapon Hallah would buy if he was a mujahedeen.

If they had as many soldier as the russians do with as much weapon per man as they used to have at the begining of the conflict, they would be the strongest army in the world.
But there isn't 200 000 islamic troops in Chechenya because they didn't find enough brainwashed fool to die there.]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-april-14-2000/paged/3/#post-22971