https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/ Disaster Message Service Discussion Board en-US Tue, 12 May 2026 08:00:02 +0000 wpForo 60 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9017 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:02:00 +0000 Second Chechen War igor https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9017 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9016 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:30:00 +0000 What parallels are you trying to draw by inciting the Chechnya conflict with the Armenian genocide? Was Russia going to stop it in its tracks? There were many reasons for the actions that the Young Turks (Nationalists) took during that time. Their ascention into power was a bizarre undertaking in itself. In the present day, I understand the Russian need for the establishment of power within the region, but would the Russians have helped the Armenians at all during that particular time?]]> Second Chechen War suleyman https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9016 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9015 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:14:00 +0000 Igor, those, still supporting the NATO Kosovo blah, pretend not to notice - it is hard for the gen. public to admit their respective NATO govts. had'em all taxpayers wholesale.]]> Second Chechen War kissie https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9015 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9014 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:12:00 +0000 Bones. Damn, you need help. Definitely! You're redy to donate for my own server?;o))]]> Second Chechen War kissie https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9014 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9013 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:49:00 +0000 Second Chechen War igor https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/4/#post-9013 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9012 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:41:00 +0000 Adam R., Santa Clara, I'm proud of You off course.]]> Second Chechen War kissie https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9012 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9011 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:39:00 +0000
Hell, I don't hate Serbs, just the ones that comitted atrocities. If you like them (the murderers) then that's on you my friend.

If you're talking about Rwanda and the genocide that happened there well then we must've been in the same place, on the side lines.....watching.

I downloaded the vid but I'll be looking at it later. I'm sure it fits your agenda. You got me all wrong Igor, I hate terrorists just as much as the next guy or girl but there are ways of eliminating them besides mass destruction of ones own province. I'll bet you even money they don't even rebuild it (the province) after they're done driving the militants out. But what do you care...you're in Canada.]]> Second Chechen War bones https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9011 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9010 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:37:00 +0000 Second Chechen War igor https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9010 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9009 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:24:00 +0000
Quote: "Chechen rebels are muslims".

They are not, they just call themselves Muslims (those are two very different things) Traditional Islam in Russia is not "war" Islam, it is Islam of peaceful coexistence. The Head Mufti of Russia and European countries of the C.I.S. has signed the treaty between traditional concessions of Russia about non-spreading of religious hatred and non-calling to religious wars. BTW, my point about the recognition of Islam as the state religion is that Islam is a part of Russia and Russian life that can not be removed. If some freaks use this holy name to cover their black deeds with it Islam is not to be blamed for it.
And, there are no "rebels" in Chechnya there are murderers and terrorists.


Quote: "You support Chechen war, should you be locked up?"

In no way, I support war on Chechens, I support war on terrorists and murderers, and there is no war in Chechnya, there is an anti-terrorists campaign.


Quote: "There is no ••••••• law in Russia"

Do you live in Moscow or in Moscow district? At least, you sound like you do. I don't live in Moscow or near it, and where I live the Law is more respected than in Moscow. The fact that your mayor is a thief with dictatorial ambitions does not mean that everybody else is like him. I think Moscow government's acts are unconstitutional and discriminative. I think those responsible should bear full penalty as per the Law.
The society respects the law, when nearly every individual respects it. OK?


Quote: "I saw this line on one of the buildings in Russia, look around you will see many more like this one."

Does this fact make all the content of them right?
You, on the other hand, posted it here, and that, I think, is the spreading of national hatred.


Quote: "Are you a Jew?"

No, I'm not. I'm Russian by citizenship and by blood. I don't think that the second fact should count for anything, but you sound, as it should. Please, explain why?


Quote: "You are fool if you think our law actually cares about such things as national hatred."

It is written in the Criminal Code of the RF. Only thing remaining to do is to make it work. And, in the name of justice, that will be a crusade of my life.


Quote: "Every weak "OMOH" (this is government sponsored special forces so that you know it) go to the markets with so called special operation to catch criminals. Did you ever saw a single Russian standing against the wall during one of this operation and waiting for the bus, which will take them to the jail probably for 36 hours or more."

Yes, I saw.


Quote: "Up to 70% support war in Chechnya, are you telling me people don’t realize that army kills civilians?"

Of course, they realize and I realize. But I also realize that there is no intention to do so. If such intention will appear, I'm sure public support for this campaign will drop significantly.


Quote: "They have hate to Chechens after all they did to us"

That is sick. You are trying to turn an anti-terrorists campaign into the war on Chechens.


Quote: "I did not say a single word to the Jews but hey have crossed the line. All I have heard from them is that they are chosen people and that Russians are "filthy pigs" and don't you ••••••• point finger at me, for every word that comes about of their mouth about Russians or Russia I will answer accordingly."

You know, again, you are combining several persons and a nation. It is like saying, "All Russians are alcoholics". As for those who are offensive to Russia and Russians, well, most of them have not said anything intelligent. Why should I spend myself on answering them? Think about it. They really can say what they want, why should we descend to that level? OK? As for fascism, our fathers and grandfathers fought and many of them gave their lives for saving our country from brown plague, don't you think that by being ultra-nationalist (let's not play with words, RNE is a fascistic organization), so by being fascist you are betraying their memory?


Quote: "Nationalists are not the biggest problem of Russia, corruption is, it has been the problem for the past 10 years..."

On the long run, corruption can not cause our demise as a national entity, nationalism can. It will alienize national minorities in Russia and will force them into separatist movements. It will even divide Russians by blood into those who are supportive of nationalism, and who are not supportive of it. Also, nationalism tends to hunt sexual minorities as well. So, Russians will divide also according to this factor, etc, etc, etc. And eventually, we may see 89 separate states on the place where Russian Federation is now. Tolerance is the word for the country as diverse and multisided as Russia. We should all use our ethnical and religious backgrounds only to promote unity and peace.


Anticipating your further questions I would like to say that I'm an agnostic.

Sincerely,
Denis A. Vassiltchev]]> Second Chechen War denis https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9009 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9008 Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:23:00 +0000 Second Chechen War igor https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-december-10-1999/paged/3/#post-9008