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(@conrad_b)
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By Chorny Volk ( - 204.50.251.32) on Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 02:56 pm:
They sound like they are all saints over there never guilty of anything .It is somehow all justified.

Obviously! they are the "Chosen People"


   
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(@treslavance)
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BACON:

....i recall requesting that you prove your WACK
accusations of Kisako this, Kisako that, [Kisako
haunting your dreams....]
i asked you straight up to PROVE IT.
at least twice.

but you couldnt.
remember that.
===
meanwhile, you are on a mission to outdo
yourself...um, i guess that's what you think it
is.
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FAKE AMERICAN STILL FAKING GROSS PIG FARIS HOMOUD:

fookin' idiot! continued PROOF that you are NOT
AMERICAN!

"freedom fighters" driving into buses? and you
believe they're "freedom fighters?

will you be riding the next bus?


   
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(@rookie)
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the only one riding buses is YOU!!!

LMAO...


   
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(@rookie)
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"""Here...comes SHE-Brew! """

LMAO...


   
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(@treslavance)
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FAKE:

still ripping off BACON, eh?


   
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(@rookie)
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it;s in quotation u d@umbas5...

LOL...


   
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(@rookie)
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lmx... u are such a dummy! lol...

BTw any bus rides to far & exotic places lately?


   
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(@delenne)
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* Here...comes SHE-Brew! crawling out of her shekeled sewer - ready to prostitute herself on the world's message boards.
SHE-Brew ... LOL. I was waiting for it to turn up, - you both are retarded, - why did it take you so long? LOL. But, anyways, being a bona-fide Moslem, You couldn't react otherwise.
BTH, the only prostitute on this board is You, Bacon.

* they are the "Chosen People"
Envious, eh?


   
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(@delenne)
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* BTw any bus rides to far & exotic places lately?
Only one terrorist bus driver, ... eh-h-h ... "freedom fighter". LOL


   
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(@delenne)
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LOL. Freedom seems to be never enough, - 98% of Pal Arabs have their own de-facto Govt., the leader of which decided, that he wanted more "freedom" ... at our expence, of course. A garden variety of Saladin ... . LOL.
That Massoud Ayad, "martyred" by an Apache, was a very interesting fish - he did not spend his "summer holiday" in Lebanon by chance, neither did he go calling on the Hezbollah's Sheikh Nasrallah for the fun of it. He was sent by Arafat to execute a part of the Arafat's war plan. After setting up his strategic alliance with Saddam Hussein last April, Arafat busied himself with forging the Baghdad-Damascus-Hezbollah-Beirut-Gaza alignment. Ayad was Arafat's contact in Beirut – a key link in the chain Arafat devised for his confrontation against Israel. He negotiated agreements that turned the Hezbollah into the PA's main arms supplier and provider of training. Dozens of Pal Fatah gangsters in the Tyre and Sidon were instructed in Hezbollah's guerrilla and terrorist techniques by Iranian Revolutionary Guards officers, working out of the Baalbek bases. "Poor and robbed" PA paid Hezbollah $5 million for the weapons.
Bashir Assad told his Beirut agents not to notice the Arafat-Nasrallah deal. Assad made an offer (that was accepted) to restock Hezbollah armories for a cut from the Pals' $5 mln., thus gaining a revenue, estimated at $600,000, to defray the cost of maintaining a Syrian Army intelligence unit in Beirut.
Ayad's plan was to break through the naval blockade of Gaza by dropping the barrels outside the waters, Israel patrolled, and have Pal's frogmen snag them and tow them to shore under the Israeli radars. That worked for some weeks until December, when Israel's intelligence and Navy discovered, what was going on. Israel rejected the idea of sinking the Lebanese arms transports before they left Beirut harbor for fear of blowing its Beirut intelligence. Attempts to intercept the vessels at sea were often foiled by decoys, sent out by Ayad and the Hizballah. In the end it was decided to intercept the Pal frogmen off Gaza. It has been going on secretly since the early winter months, with dozens of barrels, stuffed with arms drifting onto the Gaza beaches without their Pal "escorts".
Late December, with that activity at its peak, Ayad relayed to Arafat, that the Lebanon-based gangs had completed advanced courses in explosives and raids and were ready for transfer to Gaza. Arafat decided to invite their instructors, the Iranians, to accompany them. It was meant to take Pal-Tehran relations a step forward and push the Iranian regime into a final commitment to join the Baghdad-Damascus-Beirut-Gaza alliance. 
Disposing of Ayad, Israel cut one of most secret and dangerous Arafat's "partnerships" in his war against Israel.


   
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Bernard Wasserstein: Have some guts, British Jews

'The diaspora has been craven in the face of Ariel Sharon's zealotry. If we do not speak out, peace in Israel will die'

11 February 2001

Ariel Sharon's first public engagement after his election as Israeli prime minister last week did not augur well for the future. He turned up at the Western ("Wailing") Wall in Jerusalem, surrounded by ultra-orthodox, rabbinical black-hats and announced: "I am visiting Jerusalem, the capital of the Jewish people for the past 3,000 years, and the eternal and indivisible capital of Israel with the Temple Mount at its centre for all eternity."

It was a characteristically brazen pronouncement from the man whose provocative foray on to the Temple Mount, known to Muslims as Haram al-Sharif, sparked off the latest intifada last September. With this statement Middle East diplomacy took a giant step backwards to the period before Israel cautiously started to remove the reality-denying blinkers that had prevented recognition of the Holy Land's essential plurality. But where were the voices of the Jewish diaspora – in Britain, the Continent and America – raised in protest against such folly?

Last summer Ehud Barak performed a signal service by breaching the taboo that had long stopped serious discussion among Israelis and Jews of the question of Jerusalem. He began the movement towards the only practicable solution, namely an end to Israeli occupation and domination over another people. In Jerusalem this must involve acceptance that Arabs and Jews should control their own destinies in their own districts of the city.

But at the same time Barak committed a grievous error by suddenly championing a key demand of Israeli religio-nationalists: the so-called Jewish "right to pray" on the Temple Mount. No doubt he hoped to defuse their hostility to his proposals for Jerusalem as a whole. Instead he paved the way for his opponent's disastrous irruption on to the mount and his own subsequent political demise.

Contrary to received wisdom, the Temple Mount is not a "Jewish holy place" in the sense in which the term is understood in either Christianity or Islam. Far from being required to pray on the Temple Mount, Jews have been traditionally prohibited from setting foot there lest they inadvertently desecrate the former site of the Holy of Holies of the Temple, upon which only the High Priest could tread.

Until June 1967, when the Israelis conquered east Jerusalem, nothing was heard of the notion that the Temple Mount was a Jewish holy place to which Jews must have access to pray and which, on religious grounds, must remain perpetually under Jewish sovereignty. Indeed, for many years after 1967 a sign was displayed near the gate to the mount by the Israeli Chief Rabbinate, enjoining Jews not to enter.

Increasingly in recent years, however, fringe groups of Israeli zealots have tried to enter the Haram and hold Jewish prayer meetings there. Some fanatics have made plans for rebuilding the Temple and begun weaving priestly garments and seeking out red heifers in preparation for the resumption of animal sacrifice. Jewish terrorists have even planned bomb attacks on the site's Muslim shrines – fortunately the plotters were intercepted before irreparable damage was done.

The movement for asserting "Jewish rights" in this Muslim holy place has received outspoken support from many right-wing Israeli politicians, including Ariel Sharon. The most recent recruit to this retrograde cause is Britain's Chief Rabbi, Jonathan Sacks, who wrote last month: "Is it conceivable that the Jews of any generation could give away the holy of holies of the Jewish soul...? None of us, not even a democratically elected government of Israel, has the authority to abandon the prayers and dreams of a hundred generations of our ancestors."

When this extraordinary affirmation of theocratic over democratic authority was challenged, the Chief Rabbi nimbly and wisely retreated to a more defensible position. Unfortunately his initial statement was taken by many of his flock as sanction for the reclamation of the Temple Mount for Jewish prayer. Most Jews, until recently, did not give two hoots about control over the Temple Mount or their newly discovered "right of prayer" there. If this is really so central to Jewish tradition, how come nothing was heard of it before 1967? In fact, all Israeli governments from 1967 until last year, of both left and right, recognised the Muslim religious authorities as sole custodians over the whole of Haram al-Sharif.

Mr Sharon's reassertion of a Jewish claim is an ill-advised invitation to holy war with Islam. Israel has hitherto been careful to avoid any action that might ignite such a jihad. Nothing would inflame pan-Islamic fervour more than renewed Jewish incursions on the Haram, this time with the apparent support of the incoming Israeli government.

Mr Sharon and the rebarbative throng of corrupt religious politicians and Greater Israelites who hailed him as their chief the other night represent a tragic deviation from the road of peace on which Yitzhak Rabin embarked in 1993. Alas, Shimon Peres and some other ambitious Labour party figures are queuing up for office in the vain hope of "restraining" Sharon.

Thank God, some Israeli politicians remain who refuse to legitimise a Sharon-led "national unity" government. Shlomo Ben-Ami, the foreign minister, and Yossi Beilin, the justice minister, have steadfastly called for principled opposition to Mr Sharon's effort to yoke religious Messianism to territorial aggrandisement.

Jews outside Israel surely have a responsibility, based on the ultimate Jewish value of pikuah nefesh(the sanctity of human life), to refrain from encouraging those in Israel who dream of recreating a sacrificial abattoir as the centre of the Jewish faith. Instead some British and American Jews are egging on this lunatic fringe.

Diaspora Jewry has not advanced peace in the Middle East by its reflexive support for Israeli policies in the occupied territories since 1967. The previous Chief Rabbi, Lord Jakobovits, forthrightly stood out against the crowd in questioning those policies. But on this point he was repudiated by most of the unenlightened lay leadership of the Anglo-Jewish community.

After the Rabin-Arafat handshake in 1993 a limited change became discernible. Organisations such as the New Israel Fund helped promote projects aimed at Arab-Jewish co-operation and equality. But over the past few weeks much of Anglo-Jewry seems to have revived its old tendency to parrot the latest propaganda from Jerusalem.

Now is the time for Jews in the diaspora who care about peace and human rights to speak out. Some of the ultra-orthodox sneer at these universalist values as foreign to their idea of Judaism. Other Jews, no less committed to Jewish tradition, maintain that such concepts are not alien to Judaism and can, indeed must, be reconciled with it.

Diaspora Jews now have an opportunity to make partial amends for past failure. They should do what they can to bolster the decent elements in Israeli politics and society. The Israeli peace movement is temporarily cowed and disoriented. Yet it reflects the yearning of most Israelis for a normal life. The proper role for diaspora Jews is to do all they can to stiffen those forces in Israel working towards harmony and reconciliation with the other nation of that too-much-loved land


   
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(@rookie)
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CLASSIC!!! Bagel girl delusions...

So we are just supposed believe in your so-called-oh-so-secretive candlestine ""Baghdad-Damascus-Hezbollah-Beirut-Gaza alignment""" !!! LMAO...

care to post any sources?

Or is this simply more jew-jive from the ""Aushwitz children alignment"" ?

lol...


   
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(@kimarx)
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Auschwitz!


   
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(@treslavance)
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afternoon, mum!
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yes i know, he has been spelling that word
"auschwitz" incorrectly from the start.
one more word this CREEP cannot spell.
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gee, FAKE, i thought you had been "to university",
pathetic shed-boy that you are...
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{+1sk}


   
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(@rookie)
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Look who's talking about shed boy!!!! lol...

45 year old never been married white trash... working full time at an animal Pen - somewhere in the Boon-dogs off the Cape! lol...

How sad!

Have u ever wondered what a waste your life has been. I mean ur 45 years old hanging around msg boards with no opinions of ur own.

How sad!

Kim;

thnx for correcting my German. lol...


   
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