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INDIA AND PAKISTAN DO NOT ATTACK KASHMIRI WITH WEAPONS. NOR DO TURKS AND IRAQIS KURDS. BURMA AND THAI ARMIES DO NOT ATTACK KAREN, MON AND SHAN PEOPLE. CHINESE DO NOT SHOOT BANDITS IN "EASTERN TURKISTAN". AND SHRI LANKA GOVERNMENT IS NOT UPSET WITH TAMIL TIGERS WHO BLOW UP ONE OR TWO OF THEIR OFFICIALS ALMOST EVERY WEEK. COLOMBIA PEACEFULLY TALKS WITH COKE DEALERS-SEPARATISTS IN THE MOUNTAINS. TALIBAN HELPS AFGHANI NORTHERN ALLIANCE, AND GEORGIANS SHAKE HANDS WITH ABKHAZ PEOPLE. ARMENIANS ARE NOT WHOOPING AZERI IN NAGORNO-KARABAKH.

SHALL I GO ON MY DEAR FRIEND?
I SURELY DON'T BECAUSE THERE ARE CONFLICTS ALMOST IN EVERY AFRICAN COUNTRY AND ASIA.]]> Second Chechen War ibnumar https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17213 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17212 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:26:00 +0000 Second Chechen War igor https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17212 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17211 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:25:00 +0000
Today Russian military officials announced that a
considerable number of Russian troops will be
withdrawn from Chechnya in the very near future,
following the end of the large-scale combat
operations in the province (probably as soon as the
rebels in Alkhan-Kala are defeated.) Russian troops
raised Russian flag over the residence of Chechnya's
President Aslan Maskhadov in downtown Grozny.
According to Russian security officials, up to 200
surrendered Chechen rebels may be released in
accordance with the amnesty law in the next several
days. Most of the surrendered and captured Chechen
rebels (up to 1000 of them) are currently being held
in temporary detention facilities in Urus-Martan.
According to Russian military sources, federal troops
in Urus-Martan are quickly running out of space and
resources required to deal with the rapidly growing
number of detained Chechen rebels. The "filtration"
operation in Urus-Martan is personally supervised by
the commander of the joint group of federal forces in
the Northern Caucasus, Col. Gen. Victor Kazantsev.
Two new "filtration camps" will be created in the
village of Tolstoy-Yurt and in the town of
Chervlennaya, using a site originally prepared for the
Emergency Ministry's personnel.

And futher interpretation of US Navi- Russian Tanker conflict :-))))

Russia found an interesting way of retaliating against
the US for the detention of its tanker by the US Navy
in the Persian Gulf yesterday. Russian authorities
handed over a US citizen, Andrei Babitsky, to the
Chechen rebels in exchange for three Russian
paratroopers captured by the Chechens earlier in the
war. Andrei Babitsky is a journalist of the American
"Radio Liberty" - a propaganda media outlet financed
directly by the US Congress...

Again, the link is here

The article has some statistics regarding casualty analysis, some cool weaponry used :-) and photos of Babytsky's handover.

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE! (Darkthrone,TM)

Fenriz]]> Second Chechen War fenriz_culto https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17211 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17210 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:19:00 +0000
Andrei Babitsky reported from Chechen side. Always giving excuses of why Chechens cut fingers and throats of soldiers and civilians. Also often reported "great Russian losses", which usually were complete bull.

He was never kidnapped because Babitsky had documents signed by Basaev and other warlords allowing him to move freely with bandits.

Andrei Babitsky always boasted that he can get in and out of Grozny without any problems. However around January 15 he was stopped by Russian troops, perhaps by pro Russia militia men. He didn't have Russian documents that allowed him to be in Grozny at that time so he was taken into castody.

Few days later one of the Chechen warlords contacted Russians and asked to release Babitsky because he is "brother in arms who stood shoulder to shoulder with Chechens". Warlord also promised to release two Russia prisoners. Andrei Babitsky wrote that he indeed wishes, on his free will, to join the warlord (Turpal Ali Adgueriev).

Andrei Babitsky's release was taped and shown on Russian TV. It was not an exchange because Babitsky was never charged, he was simply released. Turpal on the other hand released two prisoners.

There are rumors that Andrei Babitsky is actually an American citizen and was released to Chechens because US stopped Russian oil tanker claiming it was caring Iraqi oil.]]> Second Chechen War ibnumar https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17210 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17209 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:16:00 +0000
...Speaking of Putin, he met today with Madeline
Albright in Moscow. The meeting didn't go well
because of the "Chechen issues": the US, apparently,
finds it difficult to deal with Russia's latest military
victories in the province. American political
leadership hoped for another bloody and pointless war
in Chechnya. In the past couple of weeks it became
increasingly clear that Russia is winning its struggle
against international terrorism. The US is very
unhappy (hahahahahaha!-FC). As soon as her plane left Russian airspace,
Albright ordered the US Navy ship in the Persian Gulf
to intercept a Russian tanker smuggling oil from Iraq to
the United Arab Emirates. The vessel is owned by
Volgoneft - a Russian oil shipping company - and was
intercepted and bordered by the US Navy in
international waters somewhere in the area of Straight
of Hormuz...

For the full text follow this link

Fenriz]]> Second Chechen War fenriz_culto https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/4/#post-17209 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17208 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 20:46:00 +0000 AND 2,000,000 POOR AFGHANI WERE KILLED. MANY CIVILIANS KILLED BY BOTH SIDES!"

Where is your fuckking figueres?]]> Second Chechen War ultrarussiannationalist https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17208 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17207 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 20:45:00 +0000 Anybody has a personal version of the story?
___________________________________________________
Antonio
I don't understand how can keep astray of topic like that. Post a link if you think it's interresting but don't copy-paste all YahooNews here we can get there ourselfs.]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17207 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17206 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 20:27:00 +0000 By HARMONIE TOROS

The Associated Press
02/04/2000

ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) - Few people paid much attention to the disappearance of scores of religious Kurds until police found more than 50 bodies in grisly dungeons used by a militant
Islamic group.

Now parliament, newspapers and people on the streets are captivated by the story of how 100 or more people could disappear without being noticed and why so few families were willing to
contact the police.

Some families apparently refused to report the disappearances of their loved ones because they feared the state, which is fighting a brutal war against Kurdish nationalists and has cracked down against fundamentalism.

In a few cases, relatives contacted police, but their files simply piled up along with those of thousands of others of people who went missing in the country, including runaways.

``Over the past 10 years, there have been so many shady killings and kidnappings,'' said political analyst and newspaper columnist Fehmi Koru. ``This is ordinary in Turkey.''

Human rights groups say that thousands of people, mostly Kurds and leftists, have disappeared during the past two decades.

The government admitted two years ago that the state had hired death squads to kill people seen as threats to national security - including journalists, activists and Kurdish politicians.

More than 5,000 mysterious killings in the overwhelmingly Kurdish southeast have been blamed on the militant Islamic group Hezbollah, including that of a lawmaker, Mehmet Sincar,
who was apparently slain by the group in 1993 while investigating the killings.

Many of the victims are thought to have had links to Hezbollah, which is fighting to create an Islamic state in Turkey's largely Kurdish southeast.

``Most of the killings and kidnappings appear to be some kind of internal business, so the disappearances were not reported,'' said Uluc Gurkan, a lawmaker for the governing Democratic Left Party.

Hezbollah apparently kidnapped its estranged supporters or opponents to force them into supporting the group, said Faik Bulut, an expert on Islamic militant groups.

Some families knew their relatives had links to Hezbollah group and preferred not to report their disappearances to the police.

Several people have been released after spending weeks in captivity. Some said they had been tortured. Almost all the bodies discovered were found naked with the hands and feet bound.

At least two families admitted that they hadn't reported the disappearance because their relatives had been kidnapped in the past and later released, said Serap Yasar, a lawyer for the
pro-Islamic human rights group Mazlum Der. It was the association that first alerted the press to the series of kidnappings.

``They thought they would come back like they did last time,'' Yasar said. Relatives of 52 other people gone missing have reported their disappearances during the past weeks, reports said.

Kurds active in Islamic politics are likely to be scared of contacting police in Turkey, particularly since allegations surfaced that state officials may have supported Hezbollah, which killed hundreds of Marxist Kurdish rebels.

Abdullah Gul, a lawmaker with the pro-Islamic Virtue Party, said the state seems to have dragged its feet in investigating the disappearances, possibly because those who disappeared were pro-Islamic.

``We asked many times in parliament for an explanation for the disappearances. Either we got no answer, or (the government) said they were looking into it,'' said Gul.

Of the 55 bodies recovered, three were women, including an Islamic women's activist Konca Kuris, who favored a greater role for women in Islam.

Only half of the bodies have been formally identified. All but Kuris were Kurds and all were devout Muslims, except possibly two thieves, who apparently made the deadly mistake of breaking into a poultry house owned by Hezbollah.

At least six businessmen were among those found.

Bulut said it appears that the men were either being forced to pay money to Hezbollah or ``there is also the possibility that some businessmen were investing or laundering money on behalf of the organization.'']]> Second Chechen War antonio https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17206 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17205 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 20:27:00 +0000
(corrected posting)

Stay assured - I am not ashamed of my nationality.
Surely, there are no wars going on agains "bandits" and "terroris" - there are some, but the state deals with them without canons.

Concerning creating another homepage for your viewing pleasures... There will be too much honor for russian bastards who do not feel ashamed of posting pictures of corpses (better wash you face first, and clean your heart); russians, who are the last ones I am going to do something (if anything).]]> Second Chechen War balalaika https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17205 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17204 Sat, 05 Feb 2000 20:26:00 +0000
(corrected postiong)

Stay assured - I am not ashamed of my nationality.
Surely, there are no wars going on agains "bandits" and "terroris" - there are some, but the state deals with them without canons.

Concerning creating another homepage for your viewing pleasures... There will be too much honor for russian bastards who do not feel ashamed of posting pictures of corpses (better wash you face first, and clean your heart); russians, who are the last ones I am going to do something (if anything).]]> Second Chechen War balalaika https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-february-5-2000/paged/3/#post-17204