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(@Anonymous)
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IGOR>>> A friendly challenge for you. For as long as you can, try to stay above bosna, balalaika, abdulla, etc. Simply don't post insults and ignore moronic messages. Also, we all want to see terrorists anihilated. We know it will happen and without the use of nuclear weapons. So there's no need to talk about it. Thanks and good luck!


   
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(@adder21)
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- Russia cannot threaten the United States. She is poor. She is weak. She is starving. She is in chaos.


   
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(@fredenligne)
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Ultra Russian Nationalist
"Ally with US and Europe? Bullshitt"
So you see...
You understand evrething the bad way:"You are the one who should be bowing down." Why if we are ally someone should bow down?
I wanted to say fight alltogheter against islamists. Of course you will say GreatRussia doesn't need anybody and it might be true but is it neccessary to view everybody as an ennemy?
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I'm not French but Belgian and you didn't catch exactely what I said on Napoleon...Never mind...

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Igor
I went to oyur link and I red it all.
The ideas are right to some extents (I will not comment it will be too long) but the style is bad.

Not very original for someone who meet often with good minded leftists.

1/ starting with "God" Karl Marx, too classical, his bible, like the old testament is outdated.

Of course if you affirm the night is darker than the day, then in 5000 years it will still be actual...

1/ McDonald's wouldn't survive without McDonaldDouglas." Not bad; but is the big-mac the most destructive thing the west ever distilled?

OK a MacDo restaurant is ugly and they give little food.
But why always attacking this burgermaker ?

For the symbol!
Communists are crazy about symbols and sick to see this yellow M everywere were there are dreaming about "cafetaria of the poeple" with 5 red flags on each side and a statue of lennin instead the McDo clown.

The symbol, just the symbol...

3/Finishing with a quote of Fidel Castro. Hmmm...


   
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(@balalaika)
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Fresh news about russian deadlines. one of their collabortionists now predicts that grozny will fall "at least in a month". there used to be talk about "at most", and now we are having the chint to "at least". very smart, indeed,- if the prediction will be screwed up in two month, the guy may claim that he meant "at least in one month and at most eternity".


   
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Fresh news about russian deadlines. one of their collabortionists now predicts that grozny will fall "at least in a month". there used to be talk about "at most", and now we are having the chint to "at least". very smart, indeed,- if the prediction will be screwed up in two month, the guy may claim that he meant "at least in one month and at most eternity".

Ïðåäñåäàòåëü ïðîìîñêîâñêîãî Ãîññîâåòà ×å÷íè Ìàëèê Ñàéäóëëàåâ ñ÷èòàåò, ÷òî çàêëþ÷èòåëüíûé ýòàï ïî îñâîáîæäåíèþ Ãðîçíîãî îò áîåâèêîâ ïðîäëèòñÿ, ïî ìåíüøåé ìåðå, ìåñÿö.

http://echo.msk.ru/7news/


   
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balalaika

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Fred I am not sure which link you are speaking about. I was wondering if you agree how Nato misled the press. Did you believe what they were reporting? I just heard that Arkan was wounded in a shoot out in Belgrade. Do you agree that this Taliban movement should be eradicated? ® It is hard to stay calm because my ancestors have been fighting these people since Ivan The Terrible's time.He is a relative of mine.My grandfather and great-grandfathers have all fought against this Islamic horde.This Taliban movement is a threat to the whole world not just Russia.


   
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Chechnya echo NATO's in Yugoslavia
Alex A. Vardamis
Friday, January 14, 2000





CARMEL, CALIF. -- Russia's military offensive in Chechnya is an unintended result of NATO's attack on Yugoslavia.


Serbian police and photographers stand amidst the debris where, according to Yugoslav authorities, a convoy of refugees were struck by NATO forces in April 1999.
There are many similarities between the two conflicts, both in concept and in execution. Russia has learned from our example.

NATO bombed Serbia into submission. Russia hopes to bomb Chechnya into submission.

NATO claimed that it did not target Serbian civilians. Russia claims that it does not target Chechen civilians. A Russian official complains, "When you [Americans] bombed civilians in Kosovo, you called it collateral damage. When we do it, you call it a violation of human rights."

NATO's bombardment caused hundreds of thousands of refugees to flee from Kosovo. Russian bombs drive columns of refugees out of Chechnya.

NATO claimed that the war was necessary to defeat Serbian terrorists, thugs and murderers. Russia claims it must, similarly, rout Chechen terrorists, thugs and murderers.

NATO bombed because its credibility was in jeopardy. Russia bombs, in the words of Soviet-era dissident Alexander Solzhenitsyn, because, "We have capitulated everywhere. Our country cannot abandon the right to defend itself, and defense means completing this operation."

The acting president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, echoed these sentiments, saying, "We will not tolerate any humiliation to the national pride of Russians or any threat to the integrity of the country."

NATO avoided a ground war, fearing heavy allied casualties.

Threatening to "drop the bridges and turn out the lights" if Belgrade did not surrender, the West defeated Yugoslavia through massive aerial bombardment.

Russia lost the first war in Chechnya in 1994-96 because it got bogged down in ground combat.

This time Moscow, seeking to minimize its losses, replicates NATO's tactics. Recently, though, winter has set in and poor visibility has made bombing difficult. Russian casualties have begun to mount.

Last spring, Russian entreaties against NATO's massive application of force in Serbia were ignored. This winter, Western condemnations of Russia's "indiscriminate bombing" are disregarded in Moscow.

At a summit in Istanbul in mid-November, President Clinton warned his "good friend" Boris Yeltsin that if attacks on civilians continued, "the world would not stand idly by."

Yeltsin, who turned over power to Putin two weeks ago, responded that Clinton could no longer claim the moral high ground. Wasn't the attack on Serbia a war of "disproportionate consequence"?

Had not the United States used inflated estimates of hundreds of thousands of murdered Kosovars as a pretext to interfere in a sovereign nation's internal affairs?

Last month, Clinton again warned that the offensive must stop. Yeltsin reminded Washington "that Russia has a full arsenal of nuclear weapons."

How did we get to this war of words? What happened to glasnost and perestroika?

A decade ago, the Russians drove the Communists out of power with the expectation that the free world would embrace them as allies. It never happened.

At the time of the collapse of the Berlin Wall, the West promised that it would not expand eastward.

Since then, NATO, with the inclusion of Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary, has moved up to the borders of the former Soviet Union. It threatens to extend the alliance still further.

The Clinton administration, reversing long-standing arms control policy, seems determined to press ahead with an antimissile defense that would abrogate the ABM treaty of 1972.

The ill-conceived, poorly monitored infusion of billions of dollars from the International Monetary Fund into Russia has created a kleptocracy in which the shrewd and corrupt strip the country of its assets and drive average, law-abiding citizens into poverty. While criminals with foreign bank accounts live in regal splendor, Russian pensioners go hungry.

And to add insult to injury, at the very conference in which the West demanded a withdrawal from Chechnya, a treaty designed to squeeze Russia out of petroleum profits was signed. With Clinton as smiling witness, Azerbaijan, Georgia and Turkey agreed to build a pipeline that, intentionally bypassing Russia, would send Caspian Sea oil directly into Western markets.

Our idle threats over Chechnya are counterproductive. If we truly want Moscow to stop targeting civilians, we should set the example.

-- Alex A. Vardamis, the former director for European studies at the Army War College, is a retired colonel who served as military attache in Greece. He wrote this article for the San Francisco Examiner.


   
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(@aijaz_malik49)
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Shame on United States who is allowing Russia to destroy sleeping giants, the chechens. The WW III would soon be upon us if the inflictions and miseries of innocent people is continually allowed . Afghanistan survived, is a prime example of whether Chechenya would survive after becoming an independent nation. Saudi Arabia provides financial support to such independent elements.

We should not, however, allow chechen conflict to escalate. Militants are indeed, ex Soviet trained soldiers. Indeed, they are capable of laying hands on the nuclear arsenal in Russia. That would spell a serious problem for the entire peaceful world. Big brothers should recognize this reality.

These rebels are the same who never allowed domination of brits in the Southeast Asia. These are warrior, guerilla warfare experts. They raided united India many times to claim the riches of the area. After their war bounties retrived back into the rugged mountains of Cacausus.

I think the WW III would definitely start in Asia either near Russia or near the south. China might make exceptional gains of power in the region. We need to make a wake-up call to the nation of "In God We Trust" or the rest of world's suffering as never befor start to unfold in the distant future.

Allow not the communism and non-belivers aggression humble us down to miseries. May He Who created us in His own image sends down His divine help before it is too late. Let us keep our lid tight on the communists. Ta!


   
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(@slovak)
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ultra: you are right. you would have to steal those money, because you don't have any money in russia. what russia needs to do is to unite with china. create the army of about 300 million troops. then attack all muslim countries and destroy them to ashes. without china, russia is nothing. total ••••, which can't take care of little chechnya. what would happened if all countries, that broke out of soviet union would attack russia. in few months it would be over with maybe pakistanian flag waving in kremel.
ultra: you are a moran, if you think you would use nukes against anybody.


   
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(@slovak)
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CHINESE ARMY WILL RISE !
remember that. and if it will decide to attack through west, nothing will stop. not even "great russia." right now, if china would attack, it would easily took the whole siberia, because the east of russia is 80% empty and live there equals to maybe 9th century.


   
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(@british)
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Are you Russian commies ready to die ?

Nato will pull out your nasty eyes, if you Russians looked at Europe with nasty eyes


   
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