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(@james)
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how can you fight when drink a vodka you need a hot shower


   
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(@walex)
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"By SLOVAK 88 dmitri: ...i'll be bitching as long as you stop attacking anybody, who disagrees with you."

So, don't you ever stop again, man, you've made SLOVAK uncomfortable...


   
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(@walex)
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"By Dimitri:moi slovachek, no, they weren't..T-34, man..Now that was the best tank of WWII"

Actually, the best one was the last model of Elephant. It came too late, though.


   
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(@slovak88)
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Dmitri: don't have to reply to my messages. who asked you to reply. it will better for you to shut your mouth and let me talk. thanks for doing that already.
and about hawaii: no, thanks, i don't want to go. it's american. i'm not like you, you are just bitching about capitalists, but at the same time enjoying their services, because you know well, that in russia, you wouldn't even dream about it.

caucasian: you weren't funny.

SIEG HEIL !


   
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"""At a hospital in the Russian city of Perm, newly wounded troops described hellish ambushes in Grozny. A Russian sniper named Mikhail said 25 members of his unit of 70 soldiers had either been killed or wounded. The Interfax news agency said that 23 Russians died in today's fighting, an exceptionally high number.

Mikhail speculated that the rebels must be on drugs, such are their acts of risk-taking. "They go and do the job unconsciously, I think. You shoot and hit one, and he does not even fall down. This makes a big impression on the psyche, of course. Vitally important organs are hit and he does not even fall down!" Mikhail said."""

No rebels are not on drugs, they are brave and committed fighters, and death is not something they are afraid of. They believe in the life after death, and long for paradise. Not like the unbelievers, who love this world too much, but are too weak-minded to refuse to fight in Chechnia. So their life is destroyed and they become losers both in this world and in the next.


   
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 igor
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Wow what will power I am impressed


   
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RIA Novosti
LORD RUSSELL-JOHNSTON CHANGES OPINION ON NORTH CAUCASIAN EVENTS. WILL HE SAY SO TO COUNCIL OF EUROPE PARLIAMENTARY ASSEMBLY?






Lord Russell-Johnston, Chairman of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, had thoroughly changed his opinion on North Caucasian developments, he said to newsmen upon arrival from a tour of Daghestan, Ingushetia and Chechnya's liberated areas.


Lord Russell-Johnston called to President Aslan Maskhadov of Chechnya to urgently extradite terrorists to Russia and release all hostages-an appeal which coincided with negotiation provisos previously made by Russia's federal top. Something has to be done about Chechnya's bandit regime. This is now clearer than ever to the entire Parliamentary Assembly delegation, he pointed out.


The assembly president is willing to elaborate an unbiased evaluation of the North Caucasian arrangement to offer it to an upcoming assembly session -just what Moscow is working for in its contacts with other countries' spokesmen.


As a majority of analysts see it, a part of Western political leaders is at last coming to realise what federal action in Chechnya is about.


Lord Russell-Johnston was moved to his indicative statement by Russia's openness in Caucasian policies. Moscow is willing to provide to interested Western politicians and international agencies objective information about developments in Chechnya and the neighbouring areas - suffice it to mention a talk which Vladimir Putin, federal Prime Minister and Acting President, had with the Parliamentary Assembly delegates before they departed for the North Caucasus. The conference lasted three hours instead of a scheduled one, and gave to the delegates exhaustive replies to all questions, they later said.


Several Western delegations had previously visited Chechnya - some representing the European Union and the OSCE. Regrettably, a majority were prejudiced in their evaluations. In fact, Lord Russell-Johnston pioneered a new line to set a good example to the West. Italy, for one, will reckon with his opinion, Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini said upon arrival to Moscow today.


However, tokens of objectivity in Lord Russell-Johnston's evaluations of the North Caucasian situation do not mean that he has U-turned his stance. When he came to Moscow a few days ago, he was threatening Russia's membership of the Council of Europe suspended to punish it for action in Chechnya.


As he was addressing a news conference in Moscow today, he said that the matter had been removed from the agenda of the nearest assembly session - suggestively stressing that it concerned only next week. Suspension prospects will be looming as long as the Chechen conflict goes on, added Lord Russell-Johnston.


Next, the Parliamentary Assembly delegates appealed to Aslan Maskhadov to extradite terrorists in an act of goodwill which will start settlement talks. This fine appeal, however, remains a sheer appeal as, acknowledges Lord Russell-Johnston, prospects for federal talks with the republican president are rather vague after Maskhadov lost whatever influence to get under control of blatantly irresponsible forces - which robs the assembly initiative of practical value.


Chechen settlement requires political efforts, rather than force of arms, insists Lord Russell-Johnston immediately after - and in crying contrast to - an acknowledgement that Moscow had been moved to hit back by terrorists in a republic run by the banditry.


Lord Russell-Johnston's stance on Chechnya remains highly controversial, so experts think it too early now to sum up his visit to Moscow and the North Caucasus. His opinion of the developments had changed, he said as he was addressing a Moscow audience today. Did he really mean it? His frankness will be confirmed - or disproved - as he makes an official report of his tour.


   
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(@antonio)
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Much has been said about the fighting prowess of the Chechens in comparison with the Russians.

It seems that the Russians are fighting with one hand and one leg tied behind their backs. They cannot use full force against the Chechens because of the purported 20,000 - 40,000 human shields being held hostage by the Chechen rebel forces and/or the Russian bombardment campaign. Furthermore, the Chechen rebels use the sewers and steam tunnels for moving around the city shielded by the ground above them from the shelling. Question: Why do the Russians not gas the underground tunnels used by the Chechens? Or why do the Russians not send razvetcon forces into the tunnels to either confront the Chechens there and infiltrate the city center, or at least seal them off with precision explosives to cripple the mobility of the Chechen forces?

Were there no civillians in Grozny and the Russian-controlled rural areas of Chechnya, perhaps the Chechen forces, who have highly praised by Muslims and the West as top-calibre guerillas, would not last a day against the Russian forces. Is there anyone who thinks that a number of Russian forces meeting an equal number and equally-armed number of Chechen forces, on a conventional flatland battlefield would not be able to kick Chechen butt?

Russian forces historically have fought flatland battles, as they did against Napoleon, Kaiser Willhem II, and Hitler. It seems that mountainous battlefield theatres are not the Russian cup of tea, which is fifty times stronger than normal tea and loaded with 6 tablespoons of sugar. (What is that stuff called anyway?) So it seems there may be a natural mismatch for the Russians in the mountains, as also for the Chechens in the flatlands.


What would be a more fair fight would be 15000 Chechen mountain guerillas with artillery, aviation, and grad missiles, pitted against 4000 Armenian freedom fighters from Nagorno Karabakh armed only with AK-74s, fighting above timberline in the craggy peaks and down in the forests of the lower elevations in the mountains. Now there would be a fight. And the Chechens would be allowed to use Afghan Mujahedins and American, Azeri and Ottoman mercenaries from Istanbul and Baku. And still, the Muslim forces wouldn't stand a chance.

Should anyone doubt this, consider that 4000 Armenian freedom fighters in Karabakh kicked the Azerbaijani Turkish butt outta town in Karabakh. And the Azeris had plenty of support with over 1000 Afghan Mujaheddin and a number of Chechen and Ottoman Turkish and Israeli forces as well as American mercenaries, some with links to General Richard Secord, who was actively assisting the Azeris.

As the Chechen people are Muslims, and all Muslims are sons and daughters of the highway bandit marauder rapist brigand terrorist Mohammed (who is in hell now), the Chechen civilians, not just the fighters, are all terrorists, and it seems that the Russians are caught between a rock and a hard place, and they will just have to doom every Chechen civilian as well as the guerilla fighters.

As the Chechens feel the same way about the Russians, basically both sides, both peoples, are mortal enemies, and victory for one is the complete destruction of the other. Political and legal abstractions out of the way, Chechnya is a separate nation from Russia, and Chechens are not Russians, and Chechnya is not and cannot and never will be a part of Russia. But since the Russians must have the land, and the existence of a fiercely hostile state on its border is unacceptable and intolerable, the Russians are faced with a choice - either kill or be killed. The Russians cannot allow the Chechens to live, or they themsleves will be destroyed. Thus, in the interest of survival of the Russian nation, the Russians will be forced to utterly annihilate Chechnya and the Chechen people. The mistake Stalin made was in letting the Chechens live. Ultimately, the Russians, being a people with a fierce will to survive (ingrained alcoholism and other self-destructive behaviors notwithstanding), will opt for survival, and will find it necessary thus to nuke Chechnya. Mortal enemies never provide each other with any other choice. Both paint each other and themsleves into a corner where they are either forced to choose between unilaterally initiated debt forgiveness or a fight to the death with no turning back.

It is interesting that the Chechens have held out for so long in the city against the Russian onslaught. Why were the Hungarians and the Chechoslovakians unable to mount any resistance to invading Soviet forces? Perhaps the answer is that the U.S., Europe, and Gruzya and the Turkish entity occupying Anatolia as well as the Jewish entity occupying Palestine, the Taliban and all the Muslim countries are providing military and economic and political assistance to the Chechens, whereas the Eastern Europeans were sold out by the West back in the '50s and '60s.

So much for the vaunted fighting prowess of the Chechens.

Perhaps the Russians would do well just to invite a few hundred Armenian freedom fighters to Chechnya. The Armenians would then kick the Chechens' and Afghans' butts without need for the Russians to resort to nukes.


   
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(@ultrarussiannationalist)
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Dimitri, where do you live?


   
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Communists Mark The Death Of ‘Saint’ Lenin

MOSCOW, Jan 21, 2000 -- (Reuters) Hundreds of communists on Friday commemorated the death of Vladimir Lenin 76 years ago, praising what they called the Bolshevik leader's saint-like influence on Russian history.

Mostly elderly Russian communists, carrying red flags, flowers and images of Lenin, made their annual pilgrimage to his red marble mausoleum under the Kremlin wall on a bitterly cold and snow-covered Red Square.

Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov, head of the biggest single party in the lower house of parliament, laid a wreath and bowed at the door of the mausoleum, which has housed Lenin's embalmed remains since his death.

"Lenin was laid to rest in accordance with the traditions of our fathers and grandfathers," said Zyuganov, under whose leadership the party has abandoned militant atheism in favor of Russian nationalism and respect for the Orthodox Church.

He said there had been a long history of Russia burying its saints in monasteries. Zyuganov appeared to be referring to many communists' concerns that the Kremlin might smuggle Lenin's remains out of the mausoleum and bury him.

Former President Boris Yeltsin has said he wanted to break the cord connecting Russia with its Communist past so the ghosts of what he called the "bad old days" could not return.

"Only barbarians, only people without honor and conscience can tear up Red Square," Zyuganov said, adding that any architectural changes to Russia's historic square would dent its prestige as a United Nations' world heritage site.

Explaining the communists' acceptance of Christian piety, one woman paying her respects said: "Card-carrying members (of the party) are getting closer to Christianity."

"We strongly believe that sooner or later communism will be built," she said. "Jesus Christ was the first communist, you know."


   
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Chechens Caught in Cross Fire
By Andrew Kramer
Associated Press Writer
Thursday, Jan. 20, 2000; 3:21 p.m. EST

NAZRAN, Russia –– Umar Vakhayev returned to his house in Chechnya to find guerrillas armed with rifles and grenade launchers lounging in his living room.

The retired school principal said that made his home in the southern village of Shatoi a potential target for Russian shelling – and he decided to flee to the neighboring republic of Ingushetia.

"They were courteous to me," Vakhayev, 58, said of the rebels. "But I knew that if I protested, they would kill me on the spot."

Chechen civilians are increasingly caught in the cross fire between Russian and rebel forces, with both sides making little effort to shield people from the firefights and air and artillery strikes that have devastated many towns and villages.

Russian shelling of villages suspected of harboring militants has appalled Western governments and human rights groups, who say that many civilians have been wounded or killed, although there are no figures.

But the other side of the problem is the rebels' use of civilian areas to shield their positions and operations, even when residents are opposed to their presence. Rebels have shot some civilians who object to them establishing positions in their villages.

"The local civilians are stuck between a rock and a hard place," said Peter Bouckaert, a researcher with the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

While most Chechens oppose the Russian occupation, many are critical of the various rebel factions, saying the insurgents don't care about the safety of the civilian population and bring unnecessary suffering down on them.

Russian Su-24 and Su-25 dive-bombing jets and helicopter gunships regularly buzz between the snowy peaks around Shatoi, shooting at houses and people moving about on the roads, Vakhayev said. One rocket hit a school and killed six people in December, he said.

Still, he blames the rebels for his flight to Ingushetia, where he lives in a squalid refugee camp.

"I came to my own home and they wouldn't let me in," he said bitterly. The rebels had made themselves at home, and one fighter was fetching canned food from the cellar.

Vakhayev said the fighters belonged to the Wahhabi sect, a strict Islamic movement based in Saudi Arabia that has attracted followers among the Chechen rebels. Many villagers dislike the Wahhabis more than other rebel groups, blaming them for provoking Russian bombing raids and accusing them of mistreating civilians.

Human Rights Watch documented an incident when Wahhabi fighters in the Chechen village of Gekhi shot five local residents in the legs after the unarmed men tried to persuade the rebels to leave.

Kheida Saratova, 30, a former telephone operator from Shatoi, said she blames the war on Wahhabi groups that provoked Russia's wrath by invading the neighboring republic of Dagestan in September. The invasion, along with terrorist apartment bombings in Moscow and other Russian cities, helped spark the war.

"Because of their behavior, (Russia) is destroying us," Saratova said.

Other Chechens blame both sides.

Bauddin Lorsanov lives in Alkhan-Kala, just southwest of Grozny. The village has been stormed twice by the Russian army and attacked by rebels as well.

"The militants came here for just two days, knocking out one Russian armored vehicle and killing two soldiers – and prompting the Russians to destroy the entire village," Lorsanov said. "And the federal soldiers, who came after, were just as bad as them, a rival gang."


   
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Putin's House Is Guarded by Malysh
Summary
Some little-known facts in the biography of the Acting President Vladimir Putin (VVP):

He was born in 1952 in the lower-class family of a plant security guard and a hospital attendant. He was the family’s only child. His parents lived in one room of a communal flat until 1990. Both Putin's parents died of cancer - his mother in 1998 and his father in 1999.

VVP started working St. Petersburg Mayor Anatoly Sobchak’s administration in 1990. He was the initiator of the "oath of allegiance" to outgoing Mayor Sobchak, which he presented, speaking for all of Sobchak's administration, at a meeting of the St. Petersburg government.

When Putin became the chief of the FSB, many observers expected anti-corruption scandals. Nothing followed, however.

As the FSB chief, Putin reportedly refused to collect compromising materials on some well-known persons in Russia for then premier Primakov. However, sources say that Putin supplied these compromising materials to President Yeltsin directly.

VVP loves to spend vacations in Finland. He has never taken his wife on his short trips abroad.

Putin's wife Ludmila also comes from a poor family. She is a graduate of St. Petersburg State University, but has had little work experience. The Putins have two daughters, 13 and 14 years old.

When Putin was appointed the Acting President, the girls were taken from the German school in Moscow and now study in Hamburg, Germany. The Putin family has Caucasian sheepdog, Malysh.


   
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 turk
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"""Perhaps the Russians would do well just to invite a few hundred Armenian freedom fighters to Chechnya. The Armenians would then kick the Chechens' and Afghans' butts without need for the Russians to resort to nukes."""

Here someone really on drugs. Before making this sort of stupid remarks, you need to have a truly independent, and prosperous Armenia. Your country can not even survive on its own, so has to rely on the protection of big powers, like Ottomans in early years, and Russians now. This sort of claims might give you a nice and fussy feeling, but reality is always painful, so grow up and be realistic. Armenians need to live in a peaceful existence with all of their neighbours, cause Russia will not, and can not nuke all others for you. Therefore Armenia will live next to Azerbaijanis, Iranians and Turks forever. You might wish otherwise but this is a cruel fact for you to learn to accept and adapt.

"Chechnya is a separate nation from Russia, and Chechens are not Russians, and Chechnya is not and cannot and never will be a part of Russia."

See, you are right on this one, but again even a broken clock is correct twice a day.


   
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 turk
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"VVP loves to spend vacations in Finland."

", the girls were taken from the German school in Moscow and now study in Hamburg"

Whats wrong with Russia? Isn't there nice locations to holiday, and good schools to attend? Or He is so elitist that Russia is not good enough for them?


   
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(@toofan)
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Russians as people lost the direction and Human charector and are No Longer able to Recognize, What is Just and What is Unjust. As Germans did that mistake under influnce of Hitler, same mistake Russians are making under Rhetoric From Karate Kid Putin.Days of Imperialist Power are gone,
Russians are Mortgaging their country Future in Hands of Western Countries by occupying Muslim lands. Western countries will never allow Russians to have a Out Right Victory over Muslims Resistance. Purpose of engaging Russia in Muslim land is to Blead Russia slowly but surely to its Grave. The only smart alternative for Russians is to Cease Fire and Relinquish Occupied Muslim Lands every inch and Sign a treaty in good faith with United Muslims republics to be good neighbors on equal footing and respect. War is going on in Chechnia, Chechnians armed Forces consist of All members of Muslims Republics. Russians should stop Brutal Mass Genocide of Muslims other wise Muslims will persue Russians till Moscow and will prosecute Russians for War Crimes against Humanity. Napolian failed in his invasion against Russians because it was unjust, Hitler failed because he was unjust but Muslims will not Fail to Invade Russia because Justice will be on Muslims side.


   
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