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dimitri:
i was not trying to confuse u by posting under the name b instaed of bosna, just easier.
ok, i will not believe qaqaz.net news from now on, i will only read RF news garbage.

Disclaimer:
whoever does not wish to read the news from kavkaz.org, qoqaz.net which i am posting, please do not... i do not give it a "dimitri"!!!


   
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(@dimitri)
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b,

it's spelled : "kavkaz.com"

according to "garbage" RF News..


   
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(@dimitri)
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b,

no offence, b, but your way of arguing kinda reminds me of the way one of my very stubborn(unfortunately) friends argues - "Ohh you don't agree with the FACT that this color is white?? Fine. Why don't we call it black, as you abvoiusely wish..!"

Now, that is exactly what I am hearing from you.
What I was saying(in case you didn't understand) is that ALL news-Agencies are more or less influenced by one side or another. And that is unfortunate from where I'm looking at it.


   
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(@chechniawillwin)
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Russian Brutality of Killing, Maiming, and Raping Chachnians should stop. The countries and organizations helping Russians are co-oppressors of Chechians. Even Muslim country like Iran is playing the same tune like other countries, Iran is thinking about their Strategic Interest, What is more strategic than Muslim Umma , O Iran?. You Iranians failed the test, a test From Almighty God. You People don't have guts.

Russians "Territorial Integrity" its joke, what Borders are Russians talking about. Russians Territory Ends where Muslims Territory begins, Muslims Territory begins from Taterstan. Russians Brutalising Muslims in Muslim territory not Russian Territory.

Shamil did not Invade Russia at all, since when Degistan is Russian Territory? Degistan is Muslims Land. By incorporating occupied land and confiscating by force does not give ligitimate right to Russia. Russia should relinquish all Muslim Land and sighn a treaty with Muslims and try to live like Normal Human Beings.

Russians time and time again proved they are incapable to respect rights of other Peoples. Russia should be stripped of its Nucliar and conventional weapons so that Russia in future cannot Torment, oppress and Brutalize Human Beings.


   
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(@L'menexe)
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adder21:
you are one warped little cookie.

give it a rest.


   
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(@jamman)
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I'm back to the board what is going on?? Gonzo are you still out there???????


   
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(@ultrarussiannationalist)
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Dimachka, malinkiy malchik

Tebye zdetsva malo bili da? LOL, ili
tebya starshiye patcani ebali i tbl
5 rublei ot nix po luchal? Tbl piriputel
vso fedya, eto tbl kto y menya budish xueya
sosat ponil? Tolke smatri, tvayi zubi pridotsa
vidirnut po tamyshto moi xuey takoi giganskiy.
Tbl ne plach, kogda ot sosoh, poluchish ot menya
ochin sladkiy i topliy pudding. LOL!!!! Devochonka
vanuchiya, tebye nravitsa konfetku mau sosat? LOL!!
Vsem razkazhy kak tbl y menya lubish Hot Dog sosat. LOL!!
Kstate, tebye tak nravitsa moi xuey sladkiy, shto
tbl ne mozhesh ot nivo otstat. A tebye ne kazhitso
shto ya magu internet ispolzivat s raboti svayei?
Kaneshno net, tbl y nas tupac. LOL!! Ladno, ya ostavlu
tebya po koye, Govarat shto slabih ne stoet bit slavam.


   
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(@ultrarussiannationalist)
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Why is it so quite in here? Did we just detonate ICBM in Chechnya? HAHAHAA


   
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(@walex)
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"By Ultra Russian Nationalist: Why is it so quite in here? Did we just detonate ICBM in Chechnya? HAHAHAA"

Did you?


   
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(@ultrarussiannationalist)
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I dont know, and even if they did, i think its still media blackout as before. So dont ask silly questions.


   
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(@walex)
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"By Ultra Russian Nationalist: I dont know, and even if they did, i think its still media blackout as before. So dont ask silly questions."

Never mind then. I thought you're taking credit for being quiet.


   
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(@jamman)
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It is quiet and I'm out of here!!


   
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(@walex)
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"By jamman: It is quiet and I'm out of here!!"

Why not to enjoy it a little bit more...


   
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(@antonio)
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Wednesday January 26 3:34 PM ET
Turkey Cracking Down on Militants

By SELCAN HACAOGLU Associated Press Writer

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - For almost a decade, Islamic militants terrorized Kurds in southeastern Turkey, executing their enemies with a single shot to the head or a swing of a long blade called the ``sword of Islam.''

Turkish police are now cracking down on the group, arresting militants and uncovering dungeons and torture cells. The campaign has raised the difficult question of whether the state turned a blind eye or even helped create a group that went unpunished as it killed thousands of people, including hundreds of anti-government Kurdish rebels.

Last week, authorities discovered dozens of savagely tortured bodies, including that of one woman, Konca Kuris, beneath the group's hide-outs.

Outraged commentators and even some politicians contend the state's crackdown has come only because the group, Hezbollah, is no longer useful now that the main Kurdish militant group, Abdullah Ocalan's Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, has largely been defeated.

``Hezbollah has completed its mission,'' said Faik Bulut, an expert on Islamic terrorist groups. ``It has been squeezed and squeezed like a lemon.''

Hezbollah, which is not linked to the Lebanon-based guerrilla group of the same name, was formed in the impoverished southern city of Diyarbakir in the early 1980s, when the PKK was becoming powerful in the surrounding
countryside.

The militants, who distinguished themselves by wearing shirts over their pants to hide their long knives, were staunchly anti-communist and killed
hundreds of PKK members.

The group was at its height in the early 1990s, at the same time that the PKK controlled most of the countryside.

Turkey's military has denied any links with Hezbollah, but the denial has not silenced speculation that the organization, which never attacked soldiers or police, was supported by local politicians, police and paramilitary forces.

``It is not possible for an organization to do things like Hezbollah without collaborating with traitors within the state and receiving their support,'' said Mesut Yilmaz, leader of the Motherland Party, which is part of the governing coalition.

Eyup Asik, a former state minister, said that in 1993 he informed then-Interior Minister Ismet Sezgin that Hezbollah was killing people in the southeastern town of Batman. He said the government never took action.

It is not the first time the state has been accused of using radical groups to eliminate its enemies.

A 1997 government report said that the state used death squads made up of ultra-nationalists to kill Kurdish rebels, journalists and Armenian
militants.

The crackdown on Hezbollah began earlier this month, when police attacked the group's safe house in Istanbul, killing Huseyin Velioglu, the leader of the organization's most militant wing.

Following the shootout, the government arrested hundreds of militants who led police to uncover 33 corpses buried in basements and gardens throughout the country. Most of the dead had their arms and legs tied behind their backs.

All the victims were naked and some bore signs of torture, such as missing ribs and broken bones.

Many of the victims were Kurdish businessmen who refused to pay zakat, an Islamic tax, to the group. Others were not Kurds, including Kuris, an
Islamic women's rights activist who apparently first backed Hezbollah but angered its members when she demanded that women pray alongside men.

Police discovered a Hezbollah videotape in which Kuris was seen being interrogated and tortured for 35 days, newspaper reports said.

The group tortured some people by dripping burning nylon on their naked bodies during interrogations, which were videotaped, according to Mehmet Arica, a former Hezbollah member turned police informant. Arica said the
leadership watched the videotapes to review the sessions and decide on the victims' fates.

Militants injected people with tranquilizers and moved them from city to city in refrigerators or couches, the daily Sabah newspaper reported.

According to military intelligence reports, Hezbollah killed 500 Kurdish rebels and is blamed for another 5,000 mysterious killings in the region.

Turkish officials say the group is backed by Iran, a claim that Tehran denies.

Ilnur Cevik, editor in chief of the Turkish Daily News, was pessimistic that the crackdown would lead to significant change.

``All that will happen will be the elimination of some militants while the state officials, who fed them and directed them, will remain unknown and we will face another cover up,'' Cevik wrote in an editorial.

But some others said they hoped for change.

``This is the day for settling accounts,'' Mehmet Ali Birand wrote in the same newspaper. ``The state is cleaning out the dirt within.''


   
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(@walex)
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"By Antonio: ...The militants, who distinguished themselves by wearing shirts over their pants to hide their long knives..."

Now we have positive id on terrorists.


   
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