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(@allaustralian4)
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>>>Well let's see, I have a face only mother could love, a M.F.
THAT'S WHY YOU PASS FOR A STEVE ERWIN COACH
LOL!


   
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(@allaustralian4)
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AND VISINE HELPS TOO - YOU SUDDENLY STARTED TO SEE AND EVEN MAKE SOMETHING OUTTA KEYBOARD MR.A_BIT_BETTER_THAN_A_BULLFROG
LOL


   
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(@betterthanyou)
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Where did ya'll go?


   
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(@betterthanyou)
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Oh come on all_buttcave_takeit_deep_austrailian,
Can't you think of anything good to say? What's with the underscores is that the fine australian educational system at work? mmmmm bullfrog!


   
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(@betterthanyou)
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Gotta eat, I'll be back. Don't go anywhere...


   
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(@allaustralian4)
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>>>Oh come on all_buttcave_takeit_deep_austrailian,
>>>Gotta eat, I'll be back. Don't go anywhere...
WAS MY FART THAT GOOD?!
LOL!


   
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(@betterthanyou)
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Don't know maybe Jake B. can answer that.He'll probably say it smells cum!


   
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(@allaustralian4)
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SO YOU BOTH GOT 'LOTS' IN COMMON IF IT'S FAMILIAR TO YOUR NOSE TOO
LOL


   
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(@betterthanyou)
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Good night australian, sweet dreams and have a good weekend!


   
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 turk
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>>>By betterthanyou ( - 155.163.223.114) on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 07:14 pm:
Good night australian, sweet dreams and have a good weekend! >>>

Betterthanyou,
By now you must understood that the person who calls himself ALLAUSTRALIAN is not really an Australian. He is an uneducated, juvenile, who doesn't have any kind of intelligence to understand and answer any reasonable point of view.

Allaustralian,
You MORON, stop calling yourself AUSTRALIAN, you are one smelly ruskie as you admitted above many times. You disgusting low-life pig! FART-BOY, FART-BOY, FART-BOY...


   
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 igor
(@igor)
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Turk the only one that stinks is you and your fat mother.Watch when you are generalizing.


   
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(@highlordhashish)
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Igor, don't insult Belly Dancing DUMBFucked Turka by calling him "Turk". ANYWAY, I DECIDED TO HAVE A COMPETETITITISHIHASHISH. Anyone can submit their HASHISH stories and poetry and you might WIN!


   
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(@antonio)
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Azerbaijan: Committee on archeological excavation of Albanian churches in Azerbaijan

TOL
Slavophilia Weekly
June 12, 2000

A meeting of the participants of the joint Azerbaijan-Norwegian committee on the archeological excavation of Albanian churches
in the territory of Azerbaijan was held on 2 June in Baku. The Azeri project is headed by professor Gulchohra Mamadova, with the assistance of Norwegian archaeologist Beurner Sturfail. Sturfail
said the digging will begin in the second half of June, in the village of Kish in the Shaki region, 350 kilometers northwest of Baku. Scientists have said the existence of the 1 A.D. church may prove that Albanians were the first Christians in
the Caucasus, rather than Armenians. The Albanian church was supposedly constructed 300 years before the Armenians adopted Christianity

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*Note*: Since Jesus Christ was born some time between 4 and 6 BC, He was crucified, died and buried, then resurrected from the dead and ascended into Heaven in the same body between 27 and 29 A.D. Shortly thereafter one of His 72 disciples named Thomas (not the Apostle St. Thomas after whom the expression "Doubting Thomas" was coined) visited the Armenian King Abkar in Yedessa (present day Urfa in Turkish-occupied Western Armenia) and converted him and many of the inhabitants of Yedessa to Catholicism. After this, the Church spread to all parts of the transcaucasus as far as the Caspian and Black Seas. The Albanians then, were early converts to the Roman Catholic Church along with the Armenians in Yedessa and other cities. There remained, however a sizable number of Armenians who still adhered to Paganism until 301 A.D. when St. Gregory the Illuminator, the bishop of Caesarea, converted the Armenian King Tiradates II to Catholicism. Subsequently, the Armenian king declared the Armenian monarchy a vassal state of the Roman Catholic Church and Armenia became the first officially Catholic country. Although the Albanian, Gruzyian, Tsoodeh, Gortoo, Lpin, Aghtsnoo, and other peoples were Catholic, only the Armenians and the Gruzyans had their own states.


St. Yeghisheh writes about these peoples being baptized members of the Catholic Church in his book Vasn Vartanah yev Hayotz Baderazmin, Chapter 2 (Zhamanag): "Usd aysm badjeni hrovardag yehas hashkharn Hayotz, ee Vratz yev hAghvanitz yev ee Lpnatz, ee Dzoote-itz yev ee Gortvatz, hAghtsnyatz yev pazoom ayl deghyatz heravoratz, vorotz voch e-een orenk yertal zayn janabarh harach zhamanagav: Koont gazmer ee hayotz Medzatz zazad yev zazadorti, yev harkooni daneh zosdanig martig. usd nmin orinagi ee Vratz yev hAghvanitz yev hashkharhen Lpnatz, yev vor ayl yevus ee goghmantz goghmantz haravoh merts ee sahmanus Dajgastani yev ee Horomotz ashkharn yev ee Gortvatz yev ee Tasn yev ee Dzooteh yev hArznarzyoon, vork e-een amenekyan havadatzyalk yev mgrdyalk EE MI GATOGHIGEH yev ARAKELAGAN YEGEGHETZ:


   
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(@antonio)
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The Turkish dogs, choking on their vomit of corruption.

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Turkish Money Trail 06/14/2000
By David Ignatius

Washington Post
Wednesday, June 14, 2000; Page A39

In the global fight against corruption, the most interesting country to watch right now may be Turkey. It has corruption aplenty, to be sure. But there's an emerging political movement
to clean up Turkish politics, which should give heart to reformers around the world.

The latest evidence of Turkish reformers' power came yesterday, when a parliamentary commission voted to send a corruption case against former prime minister Tansu Ciller to the country's
supreme court. The day before, another commission decided to send to the supreme court a corruption case involving another former prime minister, Mesut Yilmaz. Both referrals must now be
approved by parliament before the cases go to trial.

These Turkish scandals may seem far away, but they're worth a careful look, because they raise issues about how corruption works in a global economy and because they have intriguing links
to the United States.

The Ciller investigation is especially juicy. The parliamentary commission investigated charges that while she was prime minister from 1993 to 1995, she improperly used millions of dollars from
a secret intelligence account known as the Ortulu Odenek, or "covert fund." News reports yesterday cited as one possible impropriety Ciller's alleged payment of $71,000 to a swindler who claimed to be a retired army general, but that only accounts for part of the alleged diversion of funds.

"Where did the money go?" asks Turkish journalist Turan Yavuz, who has written a book called "Second Fatherland" about Ciller's alleged financial misdeeds and her links with America. He says that speculation in the Turkish press has focused on three possible uses of the covert money:

* To fund an unsuccessful March 1995 coup against Azerbaijani leader Gaidar Aliyev.

* To funnel money into President Clinton's 1996 presidential campaign.

* To pay the bills for Ciller's American political consultant, the late Bob Squier, who worked with her in 1994 and '95. According
to U.S. sources, Squier received about $50,000 a month for up to a year's consulting for Ciller, or a total of roughly $600,000.

A passage from Yavuz's new book, passages of which he translated for me from Turkish, summarizes the mystery: "So who paid Squier's
money? That was the most debated issue after the 1995 general elections [in Turkey, where Ciller was defeated]. What's certain is that no funds were transferred from official channels. . . .

"Other speculation . . . centered on Ciller's close working relationship with U.S. President Bill Clinton. Political circles were spreading the word around town that Ciller had donated
thousands of dollars to the 1996 Clinton campaign. But again to this day, nothing has been proved outright."

The murky case has attracted some attention in the United States. The CIA has monitored the Turkish debate about possible misuse of Turkish covert funds, but agency officials decline
to comment on the matter. A Justice Department spokesman didn't respond to a query about whether its campaign finance task force has looked into the allegations.

Squier's former business partner, William Knapp, said yesterday: "I have no idea where the money [for representing Ciller] came from, and I doubt it came from any secret fund. But if Bob was
paid through that fund, I'm sure he wasn't aware of it." Squier, a prominent Democratic political consultant, died last January.

As for the Yilmaz investigation, the case referred Monday by the parliamentary commission involves one of the world's hottest franchises--mobile telephone licenses. The former prime minister, who succeeded Ciller, was accused by the commission "of allegedly allocating mobile phone operating licenses at artificially low
prices," according to an Associated Press report.

A measure of the anti-corruption fever in Turkey is that Yilmaz has also been investigated by seven other parliamentary commissions. One of those commissions had voted on June 2 to send the supreme court a case relating to land given by Yilmaz to a joint venture between a Turkish conglomerate and a U.S. auto company.

Turkey in so many ways is a country caught in the middle--between Europe and Asia, between underdevelopment and prosperity, between a corrupt old politics and a dynamic future. What will remove the old culture of corruption--and the limits it places on Turkey's growth--is the resolve of the Turkish people.

"Corruption is arguably the most important challenge facing Turkey as it seeks to complete the transformation to the free-market economy and to join the European Union," says Bulent Aliriza,
a Turkish Cypriot who's a senior analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

A sign of change in Turkey is that the country's leading think tank, the Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation, will join CSIS and the International Republican Institute in hosting
an anti-corruption conference this October in Istanbul. They'll release results of a polling survey on the subject.

It's safe to say what one conclusion of that survey will be: Ordinary Turks are fed up with political corruption, and they want change.


   
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(@antonio)
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Tansu Clinton (Bill's Turkish cigar partner) gets what comes to her.

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Turkey's Ciller May Be Tried for Abuse of Power, Papers Say 06/14/2000

Ankara, Turkey, June 14 (Bloomberg) -- Former Turkish Prime Minister Tansu Ciller, leader of the opposition True Path party, should stand trial for allegedly using state funds to round
up supporters for campaign rallies, a Parliamentary commission recommended yesterday, Turkish newspapers reported. Ciller is accused of paying 5 billion liras ($83,000 in 1995) to self-
proclaimed con-artist Selcuk Parsadan, who claimed he could provide thousands of supporters for pre-election rallies. The decision against Ciller came a day after another commission
recommended the trial of Mesut Yilmaz, another former prime minister and a junior partner in the ruling coalition, the newspapers said.

Votes against Yilmaz by members of the Nationalist Action Party have pitted two coalition partners against each other, raising
concerns that tension within the ruling coalition could harm Turkey's economic reform program.

(Hurriyet 6/14, 1; Dunya 6/14, 1; Sabah 6/14, 37)

Jun/14/2000 3:11 ET


   
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