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Kim]]> Second Chechen War kimarx https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31813 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31812 Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:39:00 +0000 a suicide car (truck) bomber
set his bombs to go off
a little = too = early...

d'oh!]]> Second Chechen War treslavance https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31812 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31811 Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:53:00 +0000
...]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31811 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31810 Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:09:00 +0000 Gotya~!]]> Second Chechen War kimarx https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31810 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31809 Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:55:00 +0000
Dellen,
I don't have much more to add...]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31809 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31808 Mon, 09 Jul 2001 15:23:00 +0000 Second Chechen War kimarx https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31808 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31807 Fri, 06 Jul 2001 22:04:00 +0000 * You right. Maybe even they don't care about what they think themslves; only the voice of Hallah counts.
Agree. Plus, the gap in education, mentality, language, information accessibility. The West tends to project its perception of realities on the East and fails, and stands helpless at the "obvious misunderstanding" of its perception.
How does Islam classify lands. Interesting.

* "Arabs do not want a Pal state, because it would be a destabiliser for themselves first.
It is not about the recognition. "
Sorry but I prefer the non-recognition sheme. My western rationalism probably. Or I don't undertsand the "mysteries of the Orient".
No, I stressed the recognition absence (or its negligible presence) in that particular faucet only. Otherwise, yes, it is present.

* They don't want the pal state as long as Israel extists because once the borders drawn it's harder to move them.
Fred, again, it is not the territorial - it is the existential conflict. As long as Israel exists. Take the Shebaa Farms issue. Hezbollah, having had run out of pretexts with the Lebanon withdrawal, confirmed by (my kickbag) UN to the last inch of the territory, seized the Farms as pretext for continuation of their hecktivities. Never mind that, the UN considers the Farms part of Syria and not of Lebanon, as Hezbollah claims they are.

* The problem is that the Israelis think the same: the settlements are a negation of the "small israel" borders.
On June 14-17, the Jerusalem Media & Communication Center conducted a poll among the Palestinian Arabs throughout Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip. When asked, "In your opinion what should be the final goal for the current intifada?" 41.2 % of the respondents answered - "the freedom of all Palestine." Asked if they "agree to the cessation of the Palestinian intifada in return for cessation of Israeli settlement in the occupied territories," 67.1% disagreed. It did not develop as a byproduct of the "intifada." The poll performed among 2000 Arabs of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Palestinian Autonomy by the Israeli "Maariv" in Nov. 1999, showed that, 67% of the respondents "believe that Israel must be destroyed."
And You are bought by the Pal PR - "it is the settlements, that block the road to peace". The Camp David talks collapsed over the "right of return" and the status of Jerusalem, nothing was said about settlement at the time. The Pal PR was fizzling out on "return" and on Jerusalem, hence, settlements surfaced.
Even the pro-Arab Clinton recently dropped all scorn on Arafat for the failure.
It is a marvellous situation - the Arabs neither want Israel, nor the Palestinian state.]]> Second Chechen War delenne https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31807 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31806 Fri, 06 Jul 2001 19:13:00 +0000 Your turn to post.]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/27/#post-31806 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/26/#post-31805 Fri, 06 Jul 2001 19:11:00 +0000
You right. Maybe even they don't care about what they think themslves; only the voice of Hallah counts.

"Arabs do not want a Pal state, because it would be a destabiliser for themselves first.
It is not about the recognition. "

Sorry but I prefer the non-recognition sheme. My western rationalism probably. Or I don't undertsand the "mysteries of the Orient".
They don't want the pal state as long as Israel extists because once the borders drawn it's harder to move them. The problem is that the Israelis think the same: the settlements are a negation of the "small israel" borders.

Kim
"How many Muslim foreign ministers/Prime-ministers in EU???
Ok, not a lot but were are still in Europe hopefuly.
Look, the sans-papier (without paper) in paris: they want to expulse 200 of them and it's the biggest scandal of Century.
All these movements: SOS racism and so, the politics can't ignore them.

"(the majority of Muslims in the EU are Asian)"
?!?!?!?!?!
In France they come from Algeria, in Belgium from Maroc, and in Italy from Tunisia... There are millions of north africans in Europe.
In Mompelier, Marseille and Nime it's rare to meet a white and there are not pakistani.]]> Second Chechen War fredledingue https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/26/#post-31805 https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/26/#post-31804 Fri, 06 Jul 2001 18:26:00 +0000 * Is it a cry of the one driven against a wall? A last-ditch attempt a la "allamerican" to salvage the sorry "humanitarian" dry bones? In Your own backyard
"innocent cleansed honeys" terrorise the Maci state with the EU " peace in our time" help. "
- keep wishing
What is it, then?

* - No between two sides who just know that they are better and have the superior claim to the other side.
And here enters the best of all. LOL

* -Because the EU is as squeemish about NWO's as the rest of the world???
Bookeeping, pure bookeeping. Like Coffee Annan's reelection, based on the Moslem support.

* But I do understand your need to make it:" Muslims+ Nato v. the rest of Civilisation".
Naivete humanitairienne.
P.S. You again avoided the starting point.]]> Second Chechen War delenne https://www.viexpo.com/second-chechen-war/archive-through-may-3-2001/paged/26/#post-31804