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(@L'menexe)
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yeah, at first i thought clinton was going to know
better than to bring up chechnya to yeltsin, all
yugoslavian horrorshow fiascos considered. but no.

dumbass.


   
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(@manwithagoldenmind)
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James Bond

I see you like your Chechen guerillas shaken, not stirred, eh? Muhahahahahaha!


   
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(@textanalyzer)
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I think "jake berstein", "Roger Mattheson", "Gabrielle" etc. are all aliases used by the same person on this board. Definitely a 'multiple personality disorder' case here!

Just thought all of us needed to know.


   
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(@emissary)
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ok, im back again and read all of your comments. Lets make it clear that Chechnya is Russia's business and i am a Russian Natioanlist. I will tell you that if America will as go as close to even interfering with this campaign against caucasis blacks or even kills a single Russian sole, i will destroy U.S. from within. Stupid americans think they wont have problems when immigrants come here. Thank god i got in here. Now i will help Russians, hopefully after june 2000 elections it will be communist govt. defeat america through sabotage and espionage means. All who with me support Russian Pride!!!!


   
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(@rogermatesson)
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I sincerely hope that copious black bags containing Russian bodies arrive back soon in Moscow.

This will be a nice treat for that fat drunk Yeltsin and his loyal lap dog Putin.

By the way.. how many more years has that fat terrorist left to live on this planet? It will be wonderful for Americans to see Russia fall even further, after he dies.

To the inferior creature calling himself Emissary

Don't worry, We americans really are generous. We will be happy to send your family our leftover food from Thanks giving and Christmas. Lots of bones for you to chew on!


   
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Putin's cruel war is fueled by US dollars

By Jeff Jacoby
Source: Boston Globe
Date: 10/28/99

Let us call it by its real name. What Russia is committing in Chechnya is the mass murder of civilians. Moscow's propagandists speak of creating a "security zone" and of targeting "terrorist bases," but these are euphemisms. Russia is butchering Chechens by the thousands and driving them from their homes by the tens of thousands. And not only is the West failing to rise up against this bloodbath, it is actively helping to finance it.

Last week Russian rockets slammed into the main marketplace in Grozny, Chechnya's capital. More than 140 shoppers and passersby were killed, according to local health officials; hundreds more were wounded. The attack turned the marketplace into a scene from hell, complete with dead children, dismembered bodies, and pools of blood. One day later, Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, a former KGB man, gave it as his opinion that the Chechens had probably blown up the marketplace themselves.


   
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WHO BOMB mos cow's apartment?


Moscow defends its new war on Chechnya as an effort to rout the Islamic terrorists it claims were behind a series of apartment building bombings in several Russian cities that claimed nearly 300 lives last summer. This justification has been repeated unquestioningly by the US press, but it suffers from a flaw: There is no evidence to back it up.

Nothing about the apartment bombings resembles the modus operandi of the Chechens who have been fighting to free their homeland of Russian domination. The guerrillas have attacked Russian military installations and killed Russian soldiers, but they have steadfastly avoided taking civilian lives. In addition, the Chechen commanders routinely claim responsibility for their anti-Russian operations. Yet they vehemently deny any connection to the apartment-building bombs.

What would Chechens have to gain by blowing up Moscow apartments? The certain outcome of any such attacks would be a wave of Russian rage against Chechens. And as Miriam Lanskoy of Boston University's Institute for the Study of Conflict, Ideology, and Policy asks: "If the Chechen field commanders did set the initial explosions, why have they stopped? Why aren't more buildings in Moscow going up in smoke as retribution for the bombing of population centers in Chechnya?"


   
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WHY NO ONE WANT TO STAND UP FOR JUSTICE?


The apartment bombings did nothing to advance Chechnya's cause, but they have been a boon for Putin and the security agencies in which he rose to power. The police have been given a free hand to crack down on "criminals." Buildings and people have been searched at random. Thousands of Chechens and other "blacks" from the Caucasus have been expelled from Moscow, often after being viciously beaten. The bombing of Chechnya - and the heavily slanted cheerleading it is getting in the semi-censored Russian media - has given Putin an enormous popularity boost, so much so that he is now a favorite in Russia's upcoming presidential election.

Wasn't it just a short while ago that the United States led NATO into a war to end Serbia's assault on its Albanian population in Kosovo? Such ethnic "cleansing" was intolerable, the allies insisted then; if Belgrade wouldn't stop its brutality voluntarily, it would be stopped by force.

But Russia's savagery in Chechnya evokes no outrage from the White House or the State Department. Madeleine Albright managed to say that "the events of the last 36 hours" - her antiseptic reference to the Grozny marketplace massacre - were "deplorable and ominous." That was it. No furious demand that Russia halt the killing. No impassioned plea for the Chechens' safety. No warning that Moscow sit down to negotiate or face economic sanctions.


   
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Chechens' blood is on our hands,


Washington would much rather discuss how many more billions of US dollars should be funneled into Russia's corrupt economy than discuss the butchery underway in the Caucasus. But the one is tied to the other: Those dollars are being used, in part, to blow up children in the streets of Grozny. Putin's cruel war is but the latest installment in Russia's centuries-old quest to subjugate the proud people of Chechnya, but this time the United States is underwriting the bloodshed. We can cry out in protest and try to halt it, or we can look the other way. But we cannot escape our responsibility. It is Russian pilots who are dropping the bombs, but the Chechens' blood is on our hands, too.


   
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The evil empire lives .... with U.S. support
Source: Toronto Sun (original article)
By Eric Margolis
Contributing Foreign Editor
Date: Oct, 10, 1999

The Clinton administration has had many low moments, but this week it plumbed new depths as the White House gave Moscow a green light to launch Russia's second war - and possible final solution - against the tiny Caucasus mountain republic of Chechnya.

Once again, unbeknownst to most Americans, their government was supporting one of the worst human rights violations of this decade.

In Moscow, standing next to her beaming Russian hosts, U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright proclaimed "We are opposed to terrorism" - meaning Islamic rebels in the Caucasus fighting Russian rule. She said nothing about Russia's blatant violation of its 1996 treaty that granted Chechnya de facto independence. She made no protest over Moscow's egregious violation of the 1990 CFE Treaty, the most important East-West arms reduction pact, by moving large new forces into the Caucasus.

Meanwhile, as Russian shells shredded civilians, the U.S.-run International Monetary Fund provided more cash for the bankrupt, gangster-ridden regime in Moscow. Russia is bankrupt because all of its money and billions in aid were stolen and stashed abroad, while the White House turned a blind eye.

Bill Clinton ordered the Pentagon to rush Moscow state-of-the-art night vision and communications equipment for helicopters being used against insurgents in the Caucasus.

Last week, with Clinton's military, diplomatic and financial blessing, Moscow invaded Chechnya with 50,000 mechanized troops, backed by massive artillery and air power. Moscow claimed its latest assault against the republic of 1.5 million was triggered by a Chechen "invasion" of neighbouring Dagestan, and supposed Chechen involvement in a wave of mysterious apartment bombings across Russia that killed 300 people.


   
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(@rednecksmitty)
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all in nobody in the usa gives a dam about this bunch ofchecky nobodys. they don't have any money, hell they don't even have a cause; just a bunch of gangsters, looking to grab off what they can from the old ussr, which most americans miss as they were a stablizing influence in that part of the world;send these sand niggers to the middle east to live with the other crazies.the world needs a strong deterent to USA dominance. after seeing what the usa does to it's friends as in serbia.than believe this.everyone else must be our enemy; keep watch on uncle sammie, or your country will be next. only a military strong country like russia can prevent this as all the pussies in germany,england, france are already under the york.


   
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(@hunter)
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To rednecksmitty:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

You live on our money and without our help you cannot even think about to go on a single second, how dear you talk like this, you vodka lover, moral less beast.

die with vodka and go to hell with your leader stalin, poting, and fat alcholic yelsin the pigs.

Chechens' blood is on your hand


   
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Christians and Islam:

"...and nearest among them (men) in love to the believers wilt you find those who say 'we are Christians': because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. And when they listen to the revelation received by the messenger, you wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears for they recognize the truth: They pray: 'Our lord! we believe; write us down among the witnesses'." Al-Maidah(5):82-83.


The relationship of Islam and the Qur'an to the previous messages and scriptures:

"And unto you (O Muhammad) have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher/corrector over it. So judge between them by that which Allah has revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which has come unto you. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He has given you (He has made you as you are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah you will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein you differ. So judge between them by that which Allah has revealed, and follow not their desires, but beware of them lest they seduce you from some part of that which Allah has revealed unto you. And if they turn away, then know that Allah's will is to smite them for some sin of theirs. Lo! many of mankind are rebellious." Al-Maidah(5):48-49


   
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Rejection of the concept of the "trinity":

"O mankind! The messenger has come unto you with the truth from your Lord. Therefore believe; (it is) better for you. But if you disbelieve, still, lo! unto Allah belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth, and Allah is the all-knowing, the wise. O people of the scripture, do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary was only a messenger of Allah and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "three." Desist, (it is) better for you. Verily Allah is one God. Far exalted is He above having a son. His is all that is in the heavens and the Earth, and suffice in Allah as a Trustee. The Messiah will never scorn to be the slave of Allah, nor will the favored angels. Whoso scorneth His service and is proud, all such will He assemble unto Him; Then, as for those who believed and did good works, unto them will He pay their rewards in full and He will add unto them from His bounty. And as for those who were scornful and proud, them will he punish with a painful torture and they will not find for themselves any other than Allah as a friend or a supporter" Al-Nissa(4):170-173.


   
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11 Russians die of cold as winter sweeps Europe


 MOSCOW, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Winter weather swept across  Europe, with snow, rain and wind bringing chaos to transport,  and plunging temperatures taking a deadly toll in Russia.  


you commie will die with God natural bomb.


   
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