HM freedom of demonstration, gathering, speech.No way jose

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POLICE ARREST OPPOSITION MEMBERS. Serbian police in Novi Sad
on 1 July arrested four members of the opposition League of
Social Democrats of Vojvodina who were passing out leaflets
calling on people to join an opposition demonstration in
Uzice slated for 2 July, RFE/RL's South Slavic Service
reported. The protest is organized by the Alliance for
Change, which recently held a demonstration in Cacak (see
"RFE/RL Balkan Report," 2 July 1999).

Emina

YUGOSLAV ARMY ISSUES WARRANT FOR DJINDJIC. Representatives of
the Office of the Military Prosecutor issued a formal request
to the Military Court on 1 July to launch proceedings against
Democratic Party leader Zoran Djindjic. The charge is that
Djindjic did not respond to a call-up notice during the
recent crisis in Kosova. The opposition leader instead went
into hiding in Montenegro

Emina

THIS NEWS PIECE MAKES MY DAY.HOPE SOON THEY GET A NICE ROOM IN A NICELY ACCOMADATED PRISON.

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MONTENEGRO TO HAND OVER WAR CRIMINALS. President Milo
Djukanovic said in Niksic on 1 July that his government will
send to The Hague any persons indicted by the tribunal who
are found on Montenegrin territory. He added that Milosevic's
policies are "xenophobic" and have led Serbia into isolation
and self-destruction. Djukanovic stressed that Podgorica does
not recognize the current federal parliament or government.

Emina

THESE THINGS HAVE A WAY OF TURNING AGAINST YOU.FOR MILOSEVIC COUNTS WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND.ONE DAY IT WILL BE JUSTICE FOR BOSNIA TOO 🙂

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CROATIA CHARGES YUGOSLAVIA BEFORE HAGUE COURT. The Croatian
government agreed in a closed session on 1 July to charge
Yugoslavia with "aggression and genocide" before the UN's
International Court of Justice in The Hague. The charges stem
from the 1991-1995 war. Bosnia filed similar charges against
Yugoslavia several years ago, RFE/RL's South Slavic Service
reported.

Emina

Thanks Phil For the websites.And thanks to both you and l'emenexe for the presedent confirm.
I will check the websites out.
Maybe on one hand the lady isnt doing very well is a real pitty.

Emina

Another one of Sly Fox Slobs tricks. And he really thinks he can re establish ties with the west....

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THE TIMES OF LONDON, Friday, July 2, 1999

BALKANS

Anthony Loyd in Vucitrn witnesses the dread of those who wait

Thousands still held captive by the Serbs

THOUSANDS of ethnic Albanians seized in Kosovo by Serb security forces
during the war are still being held in jails throughout Serbia according
to the International Committee for the Red Cross.

The organisation has not been granted access to a single one of them and
the Serbian Ministry of Justice has repeatedly refused to release a list
of its detainees or their whereabouts.

"It is customary under international law at the end of conflicts for an
agreement to be signed for the release of all prisoners," said Daloni
Carlisle, a Red Cross spokeswoman in Pristina. "Unfortunately, due to
the speed of negotiations, the military-technical agreement signed
between Nato and Yugoslavia includes no such details for the release of
captives."

Ms Carlisle said that the Red Cross knew of 1,000 names before Nato's
bombing campaign began. "But we have no idea how many were subsequently
arrested and held, though we estimate the number to be in thousands."

The absence of information is increasing the anxiety of relatives by the
day; and for those, such as the people in Vucitrn, whose relatives are
missing, presumed dead, the Serbs' silence is particularly torturous.
The town, north-west of Pristina, had a predominantly Albanian
population though it was controlled by Serbian police during the war and
was not the scene of fighting. On May 22, more than 70 of them were
segregated by Serb paramilitaries during a police round-up. They were
taken into a house for interrogation and never seen again.

I have walked into the building twice. On the first occassion, my
driver, accompanying me, blanched with nausea and refused to drive the
car for the next four hours; on the second, my interpreter walked out
and would not speak for the rest of the day.

A thick trail of blood runs from the garden gate to the front door. On
the ground floor is a large room. Although gutted after the house was
set alight in an attempt to burn the evidence, enough remains to
indicate what happened. The floor is covered by more blood, several
square feet alone by human brain which is also splashed up the sides of
the room and ceiling. Among all this there are fragments of skulls and
bones and some bullet casings.

But few of those who died in this room were shot.

THE INDEPENDENT, Friday, July 2, 1999 INTERNATIONAL NEWS

PHOTOS REVEAL MASS MURDER

GERMAN SOLDIERS were guarding the village of Celine, north of Prizren,
yesterday where war crimes investigators have uncovered more than 100
alleged murders.

At the largest site, 21 people were killed by Serb forces while hiding
in a glade. Hamdi Fazliu crept down to the area each night after Serbian
forces left - then finally in daylight, when the troops left. Yesterday
he displayed the colour prints he has had made of the scene. One picture
showed at least 14 bodies. "I took these photographs two weeks later
[shortly before villagers buried the dead]," Mr Fazliu said. "I'm sorry
I did not take any more, but I had no more film." Mr Fazliu said about
3,500 villagers were hiding in the hills when Serb forces swept through
in March.

More than 100 people were killed in Celine alone. The village is close
to massacre sites at Velika Krusa and Bela Crkva.

Yesterday a forensic science team, including officers from Scotland
Yard, performed autopsies on 32 bodies exhumed from the main Bela Crkva
site.

Thousands Attend Anti-Govt Rally In North Serbia
03:54 p.m Jul 02, 1999 Eastern

By Julijana Mojsilovic

NOVI SAD, Serbia (Reuters) - Several thousand
applauding protesters gathered in the main square in
Yugoslavia's second city Novi Sad Friday evening and
called for President Slobodan Milosevic to resign.

The protest, organized by local opposition parties, was the
second in Serbia this week calling for democratic change
and for Milosevic to step down.

But in contrast to the first rally organized in central Serbia
by the umbrella Alliance for Change opposition group, the
Novi Sad protest was organized by local parties in
Vojvodina -- Serbia's northern province with a large ethnic
Hungarian minority.

Opposition parties have attacked Milosevic's policies in the
ethnic Albanian-majority province of Kosovo, which led to
a NATO air campaign. They called for his resignation for
giving in only last month after the country was devastated
by 11 weeks of bombing.

Members of the cheering crowd stood in the city's
Freedom Square holding banners and placards saying
``Milosevic Down,'' ''We don't want war in Vojvodina,''
``Give Serbia back its honor.''

Mile Isakov, leader of the Reformist Democratic Party of
Vojvodina, said there was no hope for the country to be
rebuilt unless Milosevic and his government stepped down.

``How can they (the government) imagine any
reconstruction without international help? And the
international help won't come if they don't leave,'' he said.
Western nations have said they will not help rebuild Serbia
as long as Milosevic is in power.

``The conclusion of these 10 years (is) that the
authorities should leave and if they don't want to leave we
will make them leave,'' he said to applause.

Novi Sad mayor Caslav Popeic also called for change after
a decade under Milosevic first as Serbian leader then as
Yugoslav president. ``We have to stop this disaster that
has been (going) on for a decade,'' he said.

Nenav Canak, leader of the League of Social Democrats of
Vojvodina, said it was time for people to be given their
normal lives back.

``NATO did not hit us because we were guilty of anything,
but because we were led by a fool,'' he said to cheers.
``Down with Slobodan Milosevic, long live all normal
people.''

Canak, a champion of Vojvodina independence, said that
was not the issue at this rally. Although he said what
happened in Kosovo -- which like Vojvodina once enjoyed
a large degree of autonomy from Serbia -- would not
happen in Vojvodina.

He urged protesters to sign a petition calling for Milosevic
to step down.

Four of his party members were briefly detained Thursday
for handing out leaflets announcing the rally. In a
separate incident, three members of the opposition
Democratic Party were detained in the western town of
Sabac for circulating a similar petition calling for Milosevic
to resign.

There was no large police presence at the gathering Friday
and the hour-long rally ended without a problem.

Novi Sad, a city run by opposition politicians, was the
object of repeated NATO bombings during the 11 week air
campaign against Yugoslavia.

It was also the first place Milosevic appeared after the
bombing ended last month. He made a speech in front of
a bombed-out bridge to launch post-war reconstruction,
calling for unity to help rebuild the country.

Independent economists say the bombing cost about $30
billion in damages to infrastructure, bridges, the power
grid, refineries and petrochemical plants.

To Kissie
You are a very fierce defender of people who should not be defended, which REALLY makes me wonder.....

And if you don't like who is writing on this board, or where the discussion is going to, you are free to leave and look for another board more to your liking. We are not holding you prisoner here, you know....That's only your friendly forces doing that to Albanians still...

For the rest I am very sorry to see you cannot distinguish between messages from the media and my own opinion. I make such efforts to separate the two.

Listen, If I write a statement and underneath you see this

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it means the article form the magazine or paper stats from that point. If you see one of my messages without a source mentioned, like: New York Times, or something, it means it is written BY ME. Do you understand that now? Copy/paste it into a little note pad file in your computer, so you can check to be sure the next time. OK??

I mean, I can imagine it is very DIFFICULT, where you're coming from, I can understand your level of English is not sufficient enough to understand it, really..... DUH!

Zoja

PS Just to make sure, this piece is written by ME, Zoja, not by the New York Times!

Well it looks like Dragan Marjanovic is on "ice." The French raided his apartment after having him under "surveillance for some time." Seems he got pretty rude with a couple of Albanians and the French dicided to haul him in.

Carlotta Gall, in her AP peice reports, "He is also under investigation for more serious crimes committed in the last few months of the war, including four rapes and the murder of two girls who were handcuffed and burnt alive. Col. Claude Vicaire, the commander of the French police force in Mitrovica, led the dawn raid himself."

phil

Emina, Zoja and the others, I have put my bookmarks on the web. If you go to: http://www.pipeline.com/~rabne/bookmarks.htm
you (or anyone) can brows the 'News' section of the bookmarks. There is a section on 'search engines' and 'reference' too. Everything is alphabatized. Save the site to your hard drive by chosing 'File', 'Save as...' Put it in a convenient directory and then open it with your broswer ( file, open page...) Once the page is open save it to your bookmarks. If you have an import utility, that's even better. Also, if you have Netscape Communicator 3.0 or later you can open the page in 'Composer' and edit the page saving the changes. phil

TO PHIL.
Thank you very much for the page with the news i put it in my bookmarks, so i can check it out on my ease 🙂
Same goes for Zoja she sais thanks too.

Emina

POW!! Fireworks! Fourth of July. United States Independance day! Kosovo should rejoice. Many Nations should celebrate today. Without our freedom and moral values many nations, or the whole world would now be under the domination of a Hitler,Mussolini,Stalin,Hirohito,Hussein, or, heaven forbid, a Milosevic. How many of you peoples countries have had their asses pulled out of the frying pan with assistance or total commitment of the USA Military. You may hate my country, but at least WE TRY to help others. We make stupid mistakes and screw things up just like all peoples, but at least WE TRY to do the right thing. Most of your people's nations would sit on their asses until it was too late.
So pop a fire cracker or even shoot a dictator for the good old Red, White and Blue today.

GUIDO.
I agree with you totaly that europe as a whole should learn to deal with, and act upon its onw problems.

ANYWAY FOR ALL YOU AMERICANS OUT THERE HAPPY INDEPENDACE DAY !!!!!!

Emina

* I remember one post of Yours in which you divided all into good and bad individuals only. That was brave. (Though all are just shades of gray and degrees of "badness".) Now it's bad people, "who
should not be defended" and poor, but good albanian criminals, released from detention places.
* Come on, a couple of exclamations before, or after a copy/pasted newspaper is not a discussion, as well as that Your reply to me.
* Sure, we here are no compare to the Balkan Singapore.
* Sorre, me little anglish-impaired Kissie usin GNUEMACS no note-pade.
* Poor New York Times.