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(@dimitri)
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San Sanych..LOL..10-4.
About my pamyat' - us Sefartik have long memory. Runs in the jeans, you know..dirty denim, so to speak.


Fred, ekhh, esli bi da kaby..no ti prav.


   
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(@haireemary)
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HI IGOR

I refered to consumer life in the Eastern European countries and former Soviet Union, not during WW2, but rather up to several years ago, ie., breakup of Soviet Union and East Block Alliance. With aid from various Western European programs such as the Euro Fund it appears that Eastern countries such as Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary will do quite well from an economic stand point. Former DDR, well from what I see, the majority of citizens whould like to see the old system return. I believe this is attributed to the fact that opportunities abound, however, those that where raised under Honniker's controlled society have not a clue as to how to pursue said opportunities. Since the collaspe of the Berlin Wall and unification of the DDR/FRD the German gov't has out done themselves in bringing the former DDR's infrastructure and economic standing on par, if not greater than those found in Western Germany. It would appear, however, that the vast economic needs of Albania, Bulgaria, Slovakia and Romania are being overlooked by the powers that be.

As for close to my heart Russia, well Igor, as much as I hate to admit it, the inmates are running the asylum. Organized crime controlls approx 53% of the economy. There is no acceptance of any form of law and order, drinking is out of controll, poverty, hunger, homelessness abounds. Not enough meaningfull jobs available, those that are working go weeks if not months awaiting their salary. Those on pension lack the adequate means for comfort in their golden years. Igor, I can go on and on. What's the answer? As far as I'm concerned, and hopefully, you'll agree, PUTIN must consider re-establishing most of the former systems of economic/financial controls, re-educate the law enforcement community and overhaul the judicial system. He must destroy and dissolve the ever present criminal environment. Without means and willingness to implement and enforce rules and laws Anarchy will rain supreme and the complete demise of Russia will soon follow. This cannot continue.

Igor, excuse me, I guess my thoughts ran away with me. Initially, I only wanted to convey the story of the bread line. OH, well.


   
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(@alexandernevsky)
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Hi Mary I agree with you and by taking care of the oligarchs Putin has started the process.


   
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(@treslavance)
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ms mary:
maybe you could e-mail ultra russian and he could show you how to return as "hairy mary" better than i could because it worked for him...

maybe back this pm
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[+1sk4tq] [!!]


   
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(@whoever)
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Igor>>> Depends on a way how Putin will manage it and how much support he will get.
Bolshevicks did a "smurtest thing" to destroy viable economical infrastructure, Stalinist squeezed peoples intelectual sources instead of letting them flourish, as result the worth human sides was emloyed, not the many of best (jews is a part of).
Andropov and co used to cut bad branches on a thorough sick tree, becouse soil was spoiled. If Putin will be heir of that, strong routes will be cuted off without replacement. Maybe Russia is too weak and prone to infections and need a strong outside support before the last gene funds not wasted. Obviously R not functional without strong handling.
L,em are you back? Do you need another mac, I have some...


   
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(@alexandernevsky)
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HA HA I posted under Frank Glodek on Serbian Cafe' and put Barnsweins picture up there for all to laugh at.Frank admits to being a pedophile.If you don't know he is the resident GOOF over there.


   
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(@treslavance)
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hello there, y'all...
=koff=
==
well...um...
*the virus was eliminated.
*a 'card' was better secured on the motherboard.
*the pegs of the monitor's vga plug were straightened out, as they should be, and the monitor was tested, with complete success.
==
and in an unrelated subplot running alongside these troubles, my AOL screen name and password had been _stolen_. this matter too has been addressed.
hock-PTUI!! -_-
=
the monitor is in my car; the 'tower' awaits reunion with its monitor with a deep yearning, known only by the fleshless who've become ===>>>

less=than=fleshless.
_less_......_than_......_fleshless_

HOO HAH!

let's hope i haven't typed in vain.
[crossing fingers]

10 km to travel before i'll know.

[+1SK4TQ]


   
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(@fredledingue)
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L'menexe
May I plagiate your "HOO-HA!"? I might need it in the future and I like it.
i.e. when I'l have to tell Hairy why I left Brussels.

(To my mind it's not realy a plagiat since I just use existing words whether they have been recently created by you or not)


   
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(@fredledingue)
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GROUNDBREAKING News
The Russian army will not leave Chechenya for the aniversary of the 96 withdrawal.
Militants disapointed...


   
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(@supreme_soviet)
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HELLO ALL. WHAT IS THE ISSUE OF DEBATE?


   
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(@alexandernevsky)
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Hi Ultra There is a pedarist on Serbian Cafe ---Frank Glodek,sick bastard like Bernsweine


   
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(@supreme_soviet)
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THANKS, ILL CHECK IT OUT.


   
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(@treslavance)
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m'sieu ledengue:
re: HOO-HAH!

1) MAD COMICS [ca.'53, and subsequently becoming
the to-this-day MAD MAGAZINE, ca.'56]

2) DAVID BOWIE ["suffragette city" '72]


i have returned home , my liege.
at the price of my AOL address book, _again_, but
i have returned.

[+99SK4TQ] [!!!]
[wink]


   
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(@alexandernevsky)
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Russia Sinks Iran’s Caspian Plans
1821 GMT, 000804

Viktor Kalyuzhny, Russian deputy foreign minister and special presidential envoy for Caspian issues, was in Iran Aug. 1 to discuss the status of the Caspian Sea with Iranian leaders. While he failed to reach an agreement, Russia’s recent decision to promote splitting the Caspian Sea bed into national sectors isolates Iran from the other littoral states. It also gives Azerbaijan, Kazakstan and Turkmenistan a reason to cooperate with their former imperial master.

While exploration is still in the early stages, the oil industry estimates the Caspian basin holds the world’s third largest oil reserves as well as massive natural gas deposits. The recent discovery of the East Kashagan field in the Kazak sector, by itself larger than all of the North Sea fields, reinforces this perception. Already the Kashagan field is being tapped. The first test well was completed on July 24 and is already producing 3,700 barrels of oil per day (bpd) and 200,000 cubic meters of natural gas a day, according to Business Wire.

But the undetermined ownership of most of the Caspian has delayed the exploration and exploitation of its petroleum reserves. Azerbaijan, Kazakstan and Turkmenistan, prefer to treat the Caspian as a lake, with each state controlling the resources in its own national sector. Partly to reinforce its claim to a sector of the Caspian, Kazakstan negotiated to split the Aral Sea with Uzbekistan in this manner.

However, Iran and Russia have insisted that the sea be developed as if it were an oceanic body of water. Under such a definition each state would control its own narrow coastal strip with the remainder of the sea’s resources being jointly developed and shared. Publicly, both Iran and Russia reaffirmed this position on Aug. 1. However, both placed qualifications on their reaffirmations. These qualifiers actually mark significant changes of policy on the parts of both states.



Russia’s continued insistence on shared development has shifted to an insistence on shared responsibility and unilateral development. It was long thought that the majority of the Caspian’s riches would fall in the Azerbaijani, Kazak and Turkmen national sectors. Now that Russia’s LUKOil has found oil in the Russian sector, there is less pressure for Russia to insist on jointly developing resources.

Consequently, Russia has shifted its position to splitting the Caspian sea floor into five sectors, but maintaining joint ownership of the sea itself. This way Russia will be able to hold its neighbors accountable for any environmental damage they inflict on the sea. After all, the Caspian’s waters won’t stay in specific national zones. The fact that the Azerbaijanis, Kazaks and Turkmen were unilaterally developing fields within their claimed national sectors, yet beyond their coastal zones, helped push Russia to this stance. Sensing the inevitable, in 1998 Moscow agreed with the Kazak government to demarcate the northern Caspian into Kazak and Russian zones.

Iran, too, has shifted its original line. As previous treaties calling for “joint ownership” of the Caspian were signed between Iran and the Soviet Union, Iran has claimed half of the Caspian’s resources, insisting that the remainder be split between the four Soviet successor states. Realizing it was pointless to pursue this claim any longer, Iran is now saying it only requires 20 percent of the Caspian’s riches, albeit still through joint development.

The Kremlin – and the other three littoral states – is not swayed. Iran’s Caspian coastline is a scant 740 kilometers, the shortest of all the Caspian states and less than half of the shoreline controlled by Kazakstan and Turkmenistan. If the Caspian were split into sectors, Iran would receive the smallest share. By extension, if the Caspian were jointly developed, the Soviet successor states would insist that a country’s share be based on coastal control – not equality. Kalyuzhny immediately labeled the new Iranian position “a dead end,” according to Interfax. Russia has apparently decided it is better to guarantee ownership its own sector, than to linger on in a legal limbo while its neighbors reap the benefits.

This newest disagreement will add an additional impediment to the already-strained Iranian-Russian relationship, splitting Iran from Russia on economic issues as well as security issues. Russia’s move could also be construed as a means to draw Turkmenistan away from Iran and back into Moscow’s orbit. The potential is strengthening for the two regional powers to slowly slide into a more adversarial relationship.

While Kalyuzhny was unable to convince the Iranians to see the Caspian through Russian lenses on his trip, he has a much more important meeting coming up. On Aug. 15 representatives of the Caspian states will meet with legal experts in Moscow to discuss the sea’s legal status. Iran has – so far – declined its invitation. Now that Russia is seeing more or less eye-to-eye with the rest of the Soviet successor states on the Caspian issue, Moscow can enjoy a brief love-fest with its former republics. Iran, however, will find itself completely alone on its side of the negotiating table
http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/commentary/0008041821.htm see map


   
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(@supreme_soviet)
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EVERYBODY WAKE UP!! ITS DEAD HERE. TOO BAD SUN IS NOT SHINING OVER THERE. I WOULD HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO. MAYBE YOU GUYS WILL BE ON WHEN I WILL BE AT WORK TONIGHT.


   
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