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(@kissie)
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Bones, You're not anti-Russian - You're just an "ugly american". A good term, I can thank the Europeans for.


   
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(@balalaika)
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Bad news for Russia (with compliments to Igor):

In addition to the massive human, social and economic costs of the second Chechen War, Russia is only now beginning to feel the diplomatic cost. The longer the war progresses, the more independence the former Soviet states will attempt to wrest away from Moscow. Chechnya may be forced firmly under the Russian heel, but the war in Chechnya opens up a larger struggle over the future of the former Soviet territories, from the Caucasus in the south to the Baltics in the north.


http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/specialreports/special14.htm


   
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(@bones)
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Dimitri,

Sure doesn't look like CNN now does it? And regardless of its origin, it's reporting Russian news.

Why the Caps? Are ya mad?


   
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(@bones)
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Kissie,

You have no idea how that hurts. LMAO


   
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 igor
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000222/aponline084710_000.htm another exageration


"Thousands of ethnic Albanians were killed by Serb forces during Milosevic's 18-month crackdown against separatists in Kosovo. After NATO bombing forced Serb troops to withdraw last spring, the province's majority ethnic Albanians began attacking Serbs as revenge" .


the UN figures about 300 or so yet BS continues.


   
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(@dimitri)
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"""And regardless of its origin, it's reporting Russian news"""

very "balalaika" of you..so does "Kavkaz.org". IT WASN'T the point, the point was that you only get "high" on YOURkindaNEWS..I suggest qoqaz.net, "ma'personal favorite"

Why CAPS? Just to point certain things to you..Does it bother?


   
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(@bones)
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Well must run but I can feel the hurt feelings already. Hell, I'm the only American here y'all can beat up on. Must be a power thing.....

Later


   
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 igor
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HERE IS DIRECT CONTRADICTION YOU STUPID B


In fact, a few of those doors are already being held open. On Feb. 22 the pro-Russia Kyrgyz communists won the most seats in Kyrgyzstan’s parliamentary elections. That same day Tajik President Emomali Rakhmonov stated that Tajikistan alone is unable to stop the inflow of drugs from Afghanistan, implying that Russian assistance is needed. Kazakstan’s prime minister reiterated his country’s strong support for the Russia-dominated Caspian Pipeline Consortium projects for extracting Kazak oil and transporting it to market. Three days earlier, Turkmenistan was negotiating a multi-billion dollar deal to provide upwards of 50 billion cubic meters of natural gas over the next 30 years to the Russian petroleum company Gazprom.
These events in Central Asia are part of Russia’s growing influence throughout the former Soviet Union. Russia enjoys a number of advantages in Central Asia that it lacks elsewhere.
First of all, the Central Asian states are very weak, partly because of their artificial borders. They lack political legitimacy, a means of leadership succession and a basic sense of nationality. As a result, these states are vulnerable to Russia’s offers. And now, those political, military and economic offers are becoming harder to ignore.

Second, there are sizable factions within some of these states that would welcome a greater Russian presence. In today’s Kyrgyz parliamentary elections the Communist Party, a faction that supports Kyrgyz membership in the Russia-Belarus union, received 27 percent of the vote. The communists are set to become the largest faction in the new parliament.

Moscow’s supporters in Central Asia are not limited to opposition groups. The Tajik president relies upon Russia to supply troops to patrol the Afghan border. Today’s statement is merely the most recent appeal to Moscow for assistance. Kazak President Nursultan Nazerbayev also realizes with one-third of his country’s population being Russian, he must always maintain a friendly line with Moscow.

Third, relations among the various Central Asian states are often times frosty. This grants Russia the ability to divide-and-rule. In late January, Kazakstan and Uzbekistan had a sharp border disagreement; such disputes are common. If these disagreements ever come to blows, there is only one party with the proximity and the power to settle them – Russia.

This regional hostility often prompts the weaker Central Asian states to invite Russia in as a counterweight to a sometimes aggressive Uzbekistan. Tajikistan prefers Russian troops to Uzbek troops on its border with Afghanistan. Last August Kyrgyzstan asked Russia – not Uzbekistan – for assistance in quelling a minor Islamic insurgency.

Fourth, when the Central Asian states do decide to work together, Russia is the logical coordinator for any actions. All of the Central Asian states fear a rise of Islam-inspired terrorism. Consequently, the primary topic of the last CIS summit was establishing a multilateral body to combat various forms of terrorism throughout the former Soviet Union. The first joint exercise to operationalize this effort – Southern Shield 2000 – occurred Feb. 12-18 in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan under Russian leadership.

Fifth, Moscow’s economic grip on Central Asia remains firm. Despite 10 years of halting efforts at economic diversification, the Central Asian economies remain tightly linked to the former imperial center. The Uzbek and Turkmen cotton industries were designed to service the Soviet market; they now remain dependent upon Russian purchases. Kyrgyzstan’s electronics industry and Kazakstan’s heavy industry were both designed to support the Soviet military machine. As the Russian military fell into disrepair, the Kyrgyz and Kazak economies followed suit. The recent Turkmenistan-Gazprom negotiations and Kazakstan’s keenness on a Russian-backed oil pipeline illustrate this continuing dependency


   
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(@kissie)
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By Bones ( - 209.211.228.236) on Wednesday, February 23, 2000 - 05:09 pm:
Kissie,
You have no idea how that hurts. LMAO

* Hurts what? You Vodka-drinking experience?


   
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(@dimitri)
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'ugly'American = American who thinks that he/they are always right and always bigger than big..creates room for ignorance towards others.


   
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 igor
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That was for you B


http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/commentary/0002230045.htm chuckle chuckle wishfull thinking on your part you poor excuse of an animal


   
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Rising Tensions in Kosovo Worry NATO
By Jeffrey Ulbrich
Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, Feb. 22, 2000; 3:17 p.m. EST

BRUSSELS, Belgium –– NATO military leaders are worried about rising ethnic tensions in Kosovo and increased military activity by Slobodan Milosevic's army just across the border in Serbia.

Spring in the Balkans frequently has meant renewed fighting, and some at NATO believe the Yugoslav president is trying to provoke a confrontation in the province, where tens of thousands of NATO-led troops are trying to keep the peace.

French, British, Canadian and Danish soldiers used armored personnel carriers Monday to block attempts by as many as 50,000 ethnic Albanian demonstrators to force their way across the bridge dividing the northern Kosovo city of Kosovska Mitrovica. About 4,000 Serbs were waiting to do battle on the other side.

"There is no doubt that Milosevic will have a hand in some of the provocations being organized on the Serb side and that is in many ways to be expected," said Lord Robertson, the NATO secretary-general.

Richard Holbrooke, the American ambassador to the United Nations, and Gen. Wesley Clark, supreme NATO commander in Europe, accused the Yugoslav government of stirring up unrest after peacekeeping troops in Mitrovica began house-to-house searches for weapons.

Tension is also increasing on the other side of the province, in the Presevo Valley, just east of the Kosovo border and home to as many as 80,000 Albanian-language people. NATO says more than 200 paramilitary police there have begun what one official called "aggressive policing," harassing residents and searching homes.

These special police forces are the same ones that were responsible for much of the ethnic cleansing that sparked NATO's air war against Yugoslavia last spring.

Belgrade rejects accusations it is stirring up trouble, saying NATO created the crisis in the Balkans.

Yugoslav Information Minister Goran Matic said Robertson, Clark and Holbrooke "stand behind the terrorism and separatism of Kosovo Albanians. They created the Kosovo Liberation Army and the crisis in the Balkans so they could spread NATO in the region."

The ethnic Albanians are being provocative, too, NATO officials say. Though the rebel Kosovo Liberation Army has disbanded, KLA-type units are still operating and alliance officials fear they could give the Serbs a pretext for renewed military action.

"I would warn anybody who seeks to be provocative in that part of the world, on whatever side of the divide they may be, that we will not tolerate action being taken," Robertson said.

NATO hasn't yet developed options for a military response if frictions in the region erupt, said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity.


   
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(@drake)
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2 abd
y drake ( - 207.58.22.143)

I think you are ignorant fool like the igor and gangs. Before you open your mouth you should learn the ISLAM well and then talk about it. That is why your gods Jesus said O people of little faith.

Read HOLY Quran and compare with bible, you will see the difference between the two.

dear abd:
Let me say in respond to you that you are full of crap.
First of all: Jesus is not my good
2. You do not know my religion therefore you are not a judge of my faith or how little it is.
3. You know nothing about me but nevertheless you instead of show me there I am wrong you are using insults and name calling.
4. For my message, i used Kavkaz.org and quqque.net web sites, which are I assume know about koran and islam.
5. If you think I message is faulty, then show me why (as Armenian did).
6. If you going to use insults against me, then you do not have to respond, because I would not give a flying monkey about what you think.

So in conclusion, I do not think you are gentelment or a schollar. Also,
here is my updated thought on majahedof in Chechnya or in the other parts of this world.

If you want to leave this life and go to paradize, do not kill innocent people. Just take AK47, standup and run toward federal tank, shooting at it. I am sure you gonna get killed and go to paradize. Also, since you need to kill infidel before getting into paradize, please try to hit tank crew with AK47, I mean you probably would not kill them but I am sure it is the thought that counts.

Let there be a peace.


   
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(@dimitri)
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take it easy, guys..


   
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(@hairymary)
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HI DIMI:

Not to change subj., a passing thought I had when comparing the vernacular, rational, logic, as well as a barrage of constant quotes from the bible/qoran between that Abdullah idiot flea brain and Adder21, who's much smarter, he's just an idiot. Do you see any possibilities of them being one in the same?? Look forward to your thoughts.


   
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