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(@dimitri)
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Fred,

last thing - before I call it a night - I would like to APPOLOGIZE for snapping at you..shoulda stayed in control of myself, I suppose 🙂
Good night..


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 oleg
(@oleg)
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Igor,
I agree those are natural consiquences for bastards. I saw many people have doubt if the remaining chechens will calm down and adjust to new capitalistic Russia.
I am sure they will. After all chechens were the first to surrunder in North Caucasus, long before Avars and Adygeis. Remember the end of the war was
on Krasnya Poliana (north of Sochy). And I guess chechens earlier surrender saved them from the toll the Dagetstany and Adygeys had to pay.
Now those two and Ingush are very quite and integreited to economy by the merits of their brain capasity.
The laws of economy are natural and dominating.
As the fathers of America knew it very well
'money talks bollsheat walks'
Got bless America!


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(@albanian)
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Hey when you bad mouthed the Albanians you finally went overboard! First off One person's enemy is another's saviour. Do you think for one moment we Albanians or Chechnians would start to ask ourselves wait the Germans are bad guys we dont want them to help us get independence from the Slavs that have been killing us for centuries.

No my evil friend if you want to be treated well you must earn it. The Slavs in General have never tried to earn any respect and shall get non in return!


Just like all evil empires that have fallen so will the Russian Beast also die a painful death with their serb brothers!


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(@jesus)
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I just stumble on this site, I do believe that the officer core is from the old school and Russia military will suffer under it until they change and get new ideas in the ranks. I didn't know much about the history of the Chechnians, but after winning their so called independent, they had an opportunity to show the world that they could be a
productive country. Well we all know what happen. I don't know if it was the Chechnian that did the deed in Moscow, isn't this all about greed anyway.


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 igor
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"I didn't know much about the history of the Chechnians, but after winning their so called independent, they had an opportunity to show the world that they could be a
productive country"


Buddy you must be insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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(@justathought)
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A Magazine of American Culture

Vol. 22, No. 12, December 1998

A BEAR IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING

By Bob Djurdjevic

General Section: VITAL SIGNS; Sub-section: FOREIGN AFFAIRS


The oft-used term "America's European allies" is one of the greatest oxymorons of our time. "America's European vassals" would be more appropriate. For, American government's policy is virtually destroying our so-called "allies," while aiding the multinational corporations.

This is not unlike the Soviet bear's treatment of its Eastern European "allies," read minions. Only more perfidious. For, the West Side bear has stuck its six big claws into the back of Madame Europe, and is dragging her into its lair, while pretending to save her and her heir. ("Save her from what?" - has been a mystery ever since the end of the Cold War and the demise of the Soviet bear).

The first claw ripping into Europe is the "EU;" the second is the "euro;" the third is the "Y2K" (though the U.S. cannot claim direct credit for that); the fourth and fifth are the two "enlargements" - EU's and NATO's expansion into Eastern Europe; the sixth is "immigration." All six claws will eventually sap the competitive lifeblood out of the victim, if the current trends continue.

The first claw - European integration, first economic, then political - is clearly being pushed by the Wall Street and Washington-centered New World Order (NWO) globalists for the benefit of multinational, not national, or regional companies. Just look at the assault, for example, launched by Wall Street bankers.

Since 1992, the year the same West Side crowd forced Europe to open its markets to foreign competition, Wall Street banks have consistently dominated Europe's mergers and acquisitions. In 1996, for example, the U.S. banks accounted for two-thirds of all such deals. Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan and Merrill Lynch led the pack, according to a July 1997 New York Times report.

A further example of the top-down NWO coercion is that the Old Continent's electorate have clearly rejected the idea of pan-Europeanism, even as they voted for a pan-European Parliament. Most representatives elected in June 1994, for example, came from the various European nationalist parties.

Even in Germany, that bulwark of the EU integration, where Helmut Kohl's government has acted as a virtual U.S. government proxy on almost every issue, there has been a voter backlash. Kohl was defeated in the September elections by Social Democrats who were critical of the government's special relationship with NATO and the United States.

This is more evidence that the 1991 Maastricht Treaty was an example of the globalist elite's ramming the EU idea down the Europeans' throats. For, the EU adds a significant tax burden over and above the costs of each national government - like the United Nations bureaucracy.

The same argument can be made about the second claw of the NWO's Euro-destruction - conversion of national currencies to a "euro." There is no doubt that the "euro" is a benefit to the hordes of the U.S. and European consulting, legal and accounting firms engaged in the currency conversion projects. Not to mention the banks, think-tanks or other leaches feeding off of productive economic activities. Just as the Harvard-inspired "reforms" in Russia in 1992-1994 meant an enrichment opportunity for the few (quislings and foreigners) at the expense of the many (Russians).

Meanwhile, the proponents of the "euro" argue that a common currency will lower transaction costs. Maybe. But even if so, not before first raising them. Besides, only companies which operate on a pan-European scale may benefit from it. As for the rest, especially small businesses - the backbone of most European economies - the "euro" will mostly mean additional expenses and diminishing national sovereignty.

And then there are political risks associated with the "euro." "The new currency will become the target of allocation conflicts, the magnet for political action and the putty between continental forces," noted a July 1998 Bertelsmann Forum report. "The 'euro' could force a major process of financial compensation throughout Europe, thus triggering conflicts of a new intensity." Indeed.

The third claw tearing into the back of Europe is the "Y2K" problem, the so-called Millennium Bug. The "Y2K," of course, afflicts all of the industrialized world, not only Europe. But both Europe and Japan, two major competitors of the U.S.-based multinationals, are at least nine to 12 months behind the U.S. in addressing this issue, according to a recent CIA study.

Now, nine to 12 months may not sound like much in some industries where changes are measured in years or decades. But this is quite a setback for Europe in the high-tech world. The PC product cycles have been reduced to about 12 months. The Internet has now shrunk the "Web year" from 12-months to about 90 days. In short, the "Y2K" is likely to set Europe back even further relative to the U.S. than it is today.

The fourth and the fifth claws of the U.S.-inspired European self-destruction are the two "enlargements" - extending the EU membership to some Eastern European countries, and expanding NATO.

As Germany's own integration has clearly shown, even uniting two countries which share ethnic and cultural identities is a Herculean task. And a very expensive one. The enormous costs of reunification have practically brought the treasury of the largest European economy practically to its knees.

Since the reunification in October 1990, the well-heeled West Germans have poured more than $100 billion every year into East Germany so as to make their poorer brethren feel as equals at the family dinner table. Yet eight years later, many East Germans still feel as second class citizens in their own country. Which only goes to show that one cannot buy happiness or a sense of well-being with money.

Now multiply the difficulties and expenses of the German integration by a factor of 20 or more in order to appreciate the devastating impact the "enlargement" will have on the taxpayers.

The agricultural sector in Eastern Europe, for example, is still of crucial importance for employment and income generation in those countries. Yet agricultural production in Eastern Europe is currently about 30 percent of that in the EU countries, and the prices are only at around 50-70 percent of the EU levels, according to the Bertelsmann Forum report. Adding only ten Eastern European countries to the EU would increase its cultivated acreage by 44 percent. Economics 101 would suggest that a consequence of such a sharp increase in agricultural production would be lower cost of food in most of Europe.

But don't count on it. For, that's where "Socialism 101" comes in. The "enlargement" would actually lead to a "substantially increased burden on the EU budget," the Bertelsmann Forum concluded. Why? Because the EU bureaucrats subsidize the western European farmers with guaranteed prices, instead of allowing a "free market" competition to take place.

The way the French see U.S.-Albright foreign policy:

And then there is the NATO "enlargement," the number five claw in Madame Europe's back. Most people think that this is about "European security" since that's what the establishment media are telling us. It is not. How could it be when there is no enemy in sight for thousands of miles? The NATO enlargement is about enlargement of the U.S. death merchants' wallets - by the tens of billions of dollars which the new members will have to spend to bring their armed forces up to the NATO standards. Another boon for the U.S. multinationals; another burden for European taxpayers.

This brings us to the number sixth claw stuck in Europe's back - its liberal immigration policy, mirroring that in the U.S. Ostensibly pursued in the name of "multiculturalism," it is actually a euphemism for helping Big Business lower its labor rates.

Just as the "browning of America" has been "a demographic effect of seismic proportions" since the Immigration Act of 1965, according to Peter Brimelow, a Fortune magazine editor and author of the book, "Alien Nation," helping destroy the cohesion of the mostly Christian Europe has been the agenda of the same materialistic globalist crowd. Enter the millions of "Gast Arbeiters" ("guest workers") from Turkey, Algeria, Albania, Tunisia, Middle Eastern countries... and by the time they multiply and/or bring their own brethren along, Europe will have lost its cultural identity, just as we are losing it in the United States. We will both become "continents of mutts;" full of the "Full Monties" - desperate, destitute and displaced indigenous workers, just as those depicted in this excellent British film.

Now take all six globalist bear claws together - build-up of the EU bureaucracy, the "euro," the "Y2K," the two "enlargements," plus the "immigration" - ripping and gripping at Europe SIMULTANEOUSLY! Only the devil himself could have devised such a way to "help" Europe.

If the globalists' "thesis" is a centralized, integrated European Union, and it is; then the "antithesis," resulting from a popular backlash against this devil's plan, may be Europe Undone, i.e., a disintegration of Europe.

No surprise there. Almost five centuries ago (in 1513), Nicolo Machiavelli wrote in "The Prince" "There is nothing more difficult to plan, more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage - than the creation of a new order of things." Guess the New World Order globalists haven't read anything written prior to Karl Marx?

The death of NATO and/or of the EU would not be a bad outcome for American or European taxpayers, if such useless institutions were the only things to die as the globalists' New World Order crumbles. But a possibility of another Greco-Turkish conflict igniting a "World War I"-style confrontation between the great powers, and of engulfing all of Europe in it, sends shivers down one's spine. The end result may be loss of millions of lives again, perhaps forever dooming the U.S. influence on the Old Continent, just as the World War I ended the Austro-Hungarian empire.

What kind of Europe may emerge from all this? A feudal one. Not in terms of the tools of production. "Feudal" - in a sense that nation-states may break up into smaller, more manageable regional statelets, mostly along the ethnic lines.

If so, this may be a round-about way to realize an old idea. At the time of full-bore globalism in post-Cold War Europe, the idea sounded so "off the wall" that even its author called it "Eurotopia." Prof. A.H. Heineken, of the Amsterdam-based Stichting voor de Historische Wetenshap (Historical Research Institute), dusted off some old ideas, and then polished them up into a proposal for a "United States of Europe." According to his plan, Europe's 350 million inhabitants would live in 75 independent states, each with a population of about five to 10 million.

Why the five-to-10 million limit? "Because where the population exceeds 10 million, there is a manifest case for decentralization," Heineken quoted Prof. C. Northcote Parkinson, a Brit, from his 1970 report. In other words, it's a matter of efficiency. "A state of 30 to 50 million is hopelessly inefficient," Prof. Heineken concurred. Not to mention those of 150 million inhabitans of more.

Both Heineken and Parkinson drew upon the ideas of an Austrian sociologist. Leopold Kohr expressed similar thoughts in his book, "The Breakdown of Nations," published in 1957. That’s right - 1957, not 1975! Kohr wrote that, "it is always bigness, and only bigness, which is the problem of existence - social, as well as physical." Yet here are Wall Street and Washington still trying to build ever bigger institutions - both at home and abroad!

If a "feudal" Europe were to emerge from the ruins of the globalist New World Order, it would certainly spell the end of the world as we know it. But not the end of the world. For, what happens after a fire or an avalanche wreaks havoc in a forest? What follows is - life! A life richer and more vibrant than the one which the cataclysm had destroyed.


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(@shamil)
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Russians are a stinky bunch of crooks with filthy as&ses, dirty intentions and all thought about that f-u-c-king vodka. May GOD punish them as much as they have deserved by their brutalities in Checgen Republic. Amen!!!


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(@heavenlybody)
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Allah is punishing the bandits real good,586 dead yesterday.


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(@ultrarussiannationalist)
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Now I think Lenin was a crook. So help me god.


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(@armenian1)
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2 Albanian,
>>Hey when you bad mouthed the Albanians you finally went overboard!

Albania - what a pittiful place to be! Stay there, my buddy.


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(@shamil)
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>>>> Albania - what a pittiful place to be! Stay there, my buddy.


Not very much better than you puny Armenia. Your country just missed paying duties for the UN - and lost its right to vote in the UN.


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(@shamil)
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How the Western Media is backing Russia 100% in their ethnic cleansing of the Chechen people

Recently, we have received a number of e-mails, both from Muslims and non-Muslims in the West, who claim that the Western Media is supporting the Chechens. Although we do acknowledge that there is a minority of sincere reporters within the Western Media organisations, we were informed about the vast majority of them 1400 years ago by Allah (SWT) in the Quran, when He said:

"Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their hearts conceal is far worse" [Quran 3:118]

Obviously it is a big thing to make an unqualified statement that media organisations of the West, which is the supposed to be the upholder of peace in the World today, are actually supporting a Russian Force of over 100,000 men against unarmed civilians. Therefore we will qualify it with the following headlines and you can be the judge yourself:

Battered rebels flee ruined Grozny Chechen fighters are beaten back but remain unbowed, The Times (01 Feb 2000)

Janine di Giovanni fails to mention the 'battered' Russians whose '20 losses a day' bodies will soon be shown on this web-site insha-Allah. She uses the term 'flee' which is used for cowards, like the Russians who flee at such speed that they even leave their wounded behind. She says 'beaten back' like the Mujahideen 'beat back' a Russian force ten times their number for two weeks during the battle for Minutka Square. Finally, she ends with 'unbowed', as if the Mujahideen are expected to bow down to the alchoholic, immoral Russian Army. The Mujahideen do not and will not bow down to anyone except Allah (SWT), as history will repeat itself again as it did in August 1996, when the 1500 Mujahideen surrounded 10,000 Russian soldiers in Grozny to win the last war.

Chechen fighters 'abandon Grozny', BBC (01 Feb 2000)

'abandon' to mean abandoning the civilians to leave them in the care of the humanitarian Russian soldiers

In Grozny, a Symbolic Victory for Russia, Time (01 Feb 2000) -

Does Time mean similar to the 'symbolic' and glorious victory that the Russians got in the first war in 1994-96?

Rebels Flee Grozny as Russians Push In, Washington Post (01 Feb 2000) - How did the Chechens 'flee' from Grozny after they had been totally surrounded for the last few months, as claimed by the Western Media?

Shamil Basayev, Moscow's bogeyman, survives near-miss, AFP (02 Feb 2000) -

Like Russia's FSB scored a 'near-miss' when they only killed 293 innocent Russian civilians in September 1999, in order to start this War? Unfortunately for Russia and its Western Allies, this is not a War about personalities. If Basayev and Khattab were to be killed, do they really think that no-one will fight Russia anymore? Unfortunately for the Mujahideen, Russian Terrorist Spokeswoman Madeleine Albright told Moscow that they must end the War as fighting would act as a magnet for extremism and attract more extremists to the region.

Battered Rebel Army Flees Fallen Grozny. Chechens Defeated in Battle for Grozny, The Times (02 Feb 2000) -

Miss DI Giovanni finds it difficult to conceal her glee. What type of 'defeat' allows an entire defence force to withdraw with all its weapons? Has she forgotten what happened to the Russians in 1996 after the 'battered Rebel Army' fled Grozny, only to re-deploy forces as strategic war maneuvres? Perhaps she will realise this once she wakes up from her celebrated emotions.

Perhaps one needs to ponder upon the following verse and quotes:

"And how many a Prophet (from amongst the Prophets of Allah) fought in Allah's Cause and along with him fought large bands of religious learned men. But they never lost heart for that which did befall them in Allah's Way, nor did they weaken nor degrade themselves. And Allah loves the Patient Ones."
[Quran 3:146]

"Thus, those skilled at making the enemy move do so by creating a situation to which he must conform; they entice him with something he is certain to take, and with lures of ostensible profit they await him in strength."
[Mo Tzu, 479-381 BC]


The War is not over yet. Insha-Allah the Mujahideen will finish this time what they could not finish in the first war and in Afghanistan.


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(@shamil)
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COMING SOON INSHA-ALLAH...

Photographs of Shamil Basayev's TWO legs, including the one severed as claimed by Professional Liar Anne Nivat.


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(@ultrarussiannationalist)
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"
By Ultra Russian Nationalist on Thursday, February 3, 2000 - 02:07 am:
Now I think Lenin was a crook. So help me god."

•••• you Armenian bittch!!! And this post is mine!!! What bullshitt that you wrote above never came out of my words. Its too bad we dont have ips so i can show your fag ass!!! So help you God! I dont believe in GOD or ALLAh. Kiss my ass to this armenian bittch!! Armenian, read my lips!!! Suck a big fat COCKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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(@ibrahim)
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Hi, Shamil', how are you? Still fit to fight with these Russian rascals? I went to Chechnya during their first war with Russia, and was a true challenge for a real men. But Russians were even then timid like chicken, and I can tell you a few cool stories what we did to their 'johns' when we caught a trio of Russian paratroopers. Their girlfriends were definitely upset (if they maneged to find anyone. Hi-hi-hi!!!)


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