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(@ibnumar)
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Chechen Separatists Sow Terror in Urús-Martán
"The Wahabiis Have Formed Mafias That Capture and Torture Their Victims"
by JULIO FUENTES, Special Envoy in Chechnya for EL MUNDO
URUS-Martan (outskirts of Grozny). - In the cellar there were two men, but they seemed more like animals than men. To one of them they had cut off half his hand, five fingers. They took polaroid photos that were sent to his family. To the other, also Russian, they amputated his testicles, the tip of his tongue and toes of his feet with a hatchet. They tortured their captives several times a day and filmed the events with the fervor of true video
aficionados. The muffled laughter of the wahabiis are heard on the sound track of the video the Russian Ministry of the Interior (OMON) seized in a cellar of Urús-Martán after the capitulation of this city, the third most important in Chechnya, in which a slow and dramatic reconstruction has begun.
When fleeing towards the mountains, the fundamentalists took their hostages with them "in chains", according to eyewitnesses interviewed by this newspaper. The Russian liberation of Urús-Martán has served, at the very least, to dismantle the bases of the main chechen organized crime gangs, engaged in a massive kidnapping industry without precedent in the world.
"They decapitated several of their hostages with a chainsaw before fleeing. The heads of other men we found nailed to lampposts where birds had begun eating them. Some were of Russian soldiers who had been taken prisoner ", as related to El Mundo by Andrei, an official at one of the newly established command posts.
Amongst the kidnapping victims, there are numerous women and children, like Alla Geifman, a 12 year old Russian girl of Jewish origin tortured over a period of seven months and mutilated - they cut off two of her fingers and sent the video to her father via one of her torturers. They demanded five million dollars (around 825 million pesetas) for her life.
In all the Caucasus, there are 1,000 kidnapped and 1,700 missing persons, most in Chechnya and its neighbor Ingushetia. The people of Urús-Martán relate that some powerful taip (chechen clans) wage war in parallel against the wahabiis that have kidnapped and assassinated members of the rival clans. It is the implacable revenge of chechen blood.
The Russian military in the region draws a clear dividing line between the wahabii Islamic combatants, hated by the chechen civil populace - as this newspaper has been able to confirm, and guerrillas who fight for independence. Urús-Martán was one of the bastions of the Islamic radicals and a squalid prison of several hundred hostages - more than 500, according to the Russian intelligence service -, a criminal industry that has made an independent
Chechen republic a non-viable option , submerging it instead into a land of total chaos.


   
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(@armenian1)
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What a victory! No muslim camels left on this board. Except Bosna. Die, Bosna, Die!


   
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(@ibnumar)
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LET'S CONTINUE OUR STUDY OF THE NOBLE QUR'AN.

Surah 4. An-Nisa (The Women), verse 28:

ALLAH WISHES TO LIGHTEN (THE BURDEN) FOR YOU; AND MAN WAS CREATED WEAK (CANNOT BE PATIENT TO LEAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH WOMAN).

What this mean is that Muslim men can not satisfy women (because they ejaculate too soon) not because they are bad lovers, but because Allah wishes so.


   
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Ibn Pig wrote:

>>>Chechen Separatists Sow Terror in Urús-Martán
"The Wahabiis Have Formed Mafias That Capture and Torture Their Victims"
by JULIO FUENTES, Special Envoy in Chechnya for EL MUNDO
URUS-Martan (outskirts of Grozny). - In the cellar there were two men, but they seemed more like animals than men. To one of them they had cut off half his hand, five fingers. They took polaroid photos that were sent to his family. To the other, also Russian, they amputated his testicles, the tip of his tongue and toes of his feet with a hatchet. They tortured their captives several times a day and filmed the events with the fervor of true video
aficionados. The muffled laughter of the wahabiis are heard on the sound track of the video the Russian Ministry of the Interior (OMON) seized in a cellar of Urús-Martán after the capitulation of this city, the third most important in Chechnya, in which a slow and dramatic reconstruction has begun.
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I don't get it.. what's wrong with the above??
it is nice story..
;-))


   
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(@suleyman)
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Armenian,
I am Muslim by birth. However, it is hard to tell since none of my rhetoric spews even an ounce of religious content. I can't wait until the fundamentalists on this board begin calling me a traitor.


   
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(@gonzo)
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I will tell you whats wrong, torture is unacceptable in what we would like to think is a some what civilized world. As far as being an American watching you guys go at it like this on this board you come off looking silly. Besides violence just causes more violence. What do you think the Russians are going to do when they come accross their budies heads on sticks. Probably do some of the same things themselves. In this war it looks like no one can take the higher moral ground. Maybe one side should try.


   
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(@boozo)
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# I don't get it.. what's wrong with the above??
it is nice story..
;-)) #

Gut the bastards paid in kind now and after Ruskie Air Force start using those big ones sending bastards to their heaven girls with their balls down there hangin' on trees ...


   
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I am baaaack...hello(don't mind my IP - I am using a different workstation)

Suleyman,
words of wisdom, as usual..with the permition from el'Presidente and Igor I would like to hire You as my Top Analist..furthermore I will recomemd you to URN for possible hire in His Cabinet..I defenitelly recognize the good You can bring to a coalition on political/diplomatic fields of Your expertise.

Mary Dear,
I am waiting for my approval from zi Prez., so the papers for Your employment should be signed any hour now..I have no doubts He as well as Defence Minister(Igor). KGB/FSB needs You and that metters to the coalition as President realizes that his MOST Powerfull Department cannot make such a decision without having a GOOD reason for it.

URN,

Please sign the papers of Mata Hari's(aka Hairy Mary) contract. As far as Billj goes - you have my written consent approval on his hire.

Sincirely,
The Grand Inquisitor 007.


P.S. URN - Suleyman gave us an exellent idea -WE SHOULD USE THE POLICY OF "PRIANIK" AND NOT JUST POLICY OF "KNYT"..my ex-boss, Andropov, would've had it the same way.


   
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(@bones)
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Antonio,

Nice save but what got stuck on my shoes was the feces the dribbled from the hole under your nose.

And since you had nothing to say about putting that disclaimer up, you know the one, "Religious Zealot Ahead" then I must of hit the nail on the head.

With that said, you may now climb down off your soapbox and start your preaching "I hate the USA" on the streets of East Los Angeles. You've earned it.


   
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(@dimitri)
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Armenian,

I victory indeed my friend..on the field as well as on the board.

I suggest Crystal vodka for the upcoming selebration..defenitely the best ex-Soviet product in this industry.


   
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(@armenian1)
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By Suleyman ( - 206.112.21.161) on Wednesday, February 9, 2000 - 02:51 pm:

>>Armenian, I am Muslim by birth..
Oops, I meant militant muslims, jews, and christians. It's sad that when I think Muslim I say militant. When say militant I mean Muslim.

Anyway, they lost.


   
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(@dimitri)
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Fred,

soidi s boycota. Ne stoit bit' gemtelmenom s CB1 -on polnoe der'mo i ne zalyjzivaet chelovecheskogo obraschenia.


   
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(@ibnumar)
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MY LATEST QUR'AN LESSON DIDN'T GO WELL, I GUESS WE SHOULD GO TO THE BASICS, I.E. CHECHEN MUJAHIDEEN CAN BE RESURRECTED WITH COW MEAT.


   
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(@dimitri)
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I wonder where 'Turk' is nowadays..last time we conversed, he called all pro-Russians bloody hypocrites unnounced himself a true-weiner(shoot, I meant to say "true-winner") and left the building..so, "elvis", if you read this - come back, there are more "weins"(fuckk, what's wrong with me - I meant to say "wins", of course)for you here..

from LALA Land with love..
the real-"loser" Dimitri.


   
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 igor
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Ibn 'Umar do you have a link for the story.Have you seen


http://chechnya.gamma.ru/eng/default.htm


   
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