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(@dimitri)
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L-chan,
domo very much fo the explanation..to be perfectly honest I feel disgusted every time I have to refer to him as all american, there's so little of american in that A S S that I feel that his name is a direct insult to you, Gonzo, Mask and other fellas here from the US.

Gonzo,
sorry about Midwest remarks. Judging by you, they have some fine people there.


   
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(@whosim)
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ALL ASS... oops, I mean ALAS
As FredLD said... Wait, he is coming...
Our ALL Honored, ALL In, ALL Full, ALLRounder AllAm coming on finish lane in a
long run for popularity, which he lost long time ago to Kissi, Dimy,L'menex...,and rushing ALLOut to waist the rest of sympathy and miserable respect on a board.
ALLOwed to ALLOGamy by Dimi and passersby, ALLUrinated by ALLuring H'Mary,
he's forwarding to the last roof in ALMS house to meet his sweety Chish'Bacon.
And what for?.... the sad thing, he has no idea, b'couse lost ALLsense of reality, gave a bad favor to the country by naming himself ALLAMM.. Had better try that brands:-
ALLHULL, ALLSHELL, ALLSLIME, ALLSHMUCK.>>>>>
No offence..


   
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 who
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POLISH FOREIGN MINISTRY THANKS ITS RUSSIAN COUNTERPART FOR LIBERATION OF TWO POLISH CITIZENS FROM CHECHEN CAPTIVITY

..I proud for that country, they finely made it.
That was too hurd for the polish honour. Wonder, why no one polak participate here, long time back
read one negative message?


   
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(@saladin)
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Tip of the iceberg. Worst is in store for the Vodka Army. Putin will not escape the sword of justice.

TATAR NATIONALISTS BURN NEW FEDERATION MAP

The moderate nationalist Tatarstan Public Center (TPC) held protest meetings in Kazan and Chally on the Day of the Adoption of the Declaration of State Sovereignty of the Russian Federation on 12 June, RFE/RL's Kazan bureau reported. At the rally in Chally, some 500 people gathered to protest President Putin's recent creation of seven federal administrative districts and the prospect of Moscow's abrogating its
power-sharing agreement with Tatarstan. TPC representatives also burned a map depicting the seven zones, claiming that Putin's move was inspired by an idea proposed by Liberal Democratic Party of Russia leader Vladimir Zhirinovskii. RIA-Novosti reported that a similar rally and map-burning ceremony took place in Naberezhnye Chelny.


   
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(@antonio)
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By Gonzo ( - 207.230.144.251) on Tuesday, June 13, 2000 - 03:49 pm:
>Igor, interesting. Amnesty International has now
>accused NATO of war crimes and Russia of running
>concetration type camps where people are
>tortured and raped. Are they right in both
>cases?

Amnesty International, Hah! They downplay US/NATO war crimes against Yugoslavia and Iraq and ignore all the rapes committed in the US by "registered sex-offenders" who were released from Crime University prisons on "parole".

Amnesty International certainly doesn't believe in amnesty for babies in their mothers' wombs.

Whereas there is absolute proof of the US/NATO terrorist bandits' crimes against the Serbs, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of any alleged crimes by Russians against the Mohammedan bandit Chechens, other than the wild claims of the Chechen Mohammedan liars themselves and that dirty Jew Babitsky.

It's also interesting that all the anti-Russian calumniators in the media in Russia were dirty Jews like Gusinsky. Even more interesting is that all the acknowledged robber-baron tycoons in Russia are perfidious Jews like Berezovsky. Does anyone really believe the Jewish-controlled media claims that these men were rags to riches stories? The only way they could have amassed all that wealth was through their network of perfidious bandit Jews who plundering everything in sight including the kitchen sinks.

Putin is right to wage war against the bandit Mohammedans and the perfidious Jew capitalist robber barons. Putin would do well to ban the practice of Mohammedanism and Judaism in Russia and burn all the Korans and Talmuds, close the synogogues and Mejits and turn them into horse stables or public latrines, and burn all the rapist rabbis at the stake. Then all the children born to the Jews and Mohammedans should be confiscated (they are slaves after all, not citizens) and raised Russian Orthodox in Russian families.

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Pope Gregory IX says: "Ungrateful for favors and forgeful of benefits, the Jews return insult for kindness and impious contempt for goodness. They
ought to know the yoke of perpetual enslavement because of their guilt. See to it that the perfidious Jews never in the future grow insolent, but that they always suffer publicly the shame of their sin in servile fear."

Pope Innocent III says: "Crucifiers of Christ ought to be held in continual subjection."

St. Thomas Aquinas says: "It would be licit, according to custom, to hold Jews in perpetual servitude because of their crime."

Pope Leo VII says: "Let the Gospel be preached to them and, if they remain obstinate, let them be expelled."

St. Augustine says: "The Jews wander over the entire earth, their backs bent over and their eyes cast downward, forever calling to our minds the curse they carry with them."

Pope Innocent III says: "As wanderers, they (the Jews) must remain upon the earth until their faces are filled with shame and they seek the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

"Thou shalt eat bread and cover it with the dung that comes out of a man. Thus shall the children of Israel eat their bread all filthy among the
nations wither I will cast them out, saith the Lord." (Ezechiel 4:12-13)


   
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(@L'menexe)
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ANTONIO:

showing your true jew-hater colors, eh?

what _any_ (expletive) pope from centuries ago has
to say about _anything_
IS NOT RELEVANT.

about time for you to post your 'destroy america'
essay for, like, the 4th time, isnt it?

might as well justify the holocaust while you're
at it.

you must _crave_ the abuse you get here.


   
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 igor
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"Le Figaro": American base was the aim of bombing of Yugoslavia
June 13, 2000



Paris, June 12th (Tanjug) - The official French government sticks to the explanation they offered concerning their involvement in NATO aggression on Yugoslavia, but they can no longer deceive neither their public nor the media about the real cause of the criminal bombing of Yugoslavia. It turned out that Paris and other Europeans "worked" for the benefit of Washington interests, which is stressed in the latest edition of the Paris weekly "Le Figaro".


"Allies of the United States start to wonder whether the formation of American base in Kosmet was real purpose of the war" led, allegedly, on behalf of the human rights of Kosmet Albanians, and which ended a year ago. This is the statement by which the Paris weekly announced detailed story about the American base "Bondsteel" in southern Kosovo.


"Le Figaro" published the information already known by Yugoslav public and described "Bondsteel" as "large base" or even "military-industrial complex" which resembled more "a town of 10 000 inhabitants than a temporary camp provided by the UN Security Council Resolution 1244 a year ago by which the bombing of Yugoslavia was ended".


The base, for which the weekly said "it was no secret, but was rather discrete", spreads over the area of 300 hectares, where everything shows that it was created "to stay for long".


In the base, the weekly said, there were 1600 lodgings, provided with heating and air conditioners, 24 administration buildings "which were already constructed and other which are under construction", "two pharaoh dining rooms" open 24 hours, as well as the infrastructure objects, including the projection room with 800 seats, football and other sports fields.


"Everything proves that Americans came there to stay longer. They do not even hide it, since the officers admit in cold blood that this base is the most important one outside the US", "Le Figaro" says.


The Paris weekly stressed that the American base position in Kosmet was "ideally chosen", since it is a "Muslim area where European sentiments do not exist" and it is also the region where the conflict zones cross: the Balkans, Mediterranean and the Middle East together with its oil.


"The Crusade for human rights of ethnic Albanians could, as its first result i.e. its purpose, have (new) arrangement of Americans in the Old continent", which is actually the creation of mighty "Bondsteel" base, "Le Figaro" weekly concludes in this week's edition.


   
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(@hairymary)
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ANTONIO

How nice of you to provide us with another of your long list of great and most informative postings. Not that I'm a glutton for more punishment, but I can't help but notice that your postings have begun to lose some of it's distinctive appeal and characteristics. They also seem to have become much shorter.

Could you kindly make the necessary corrections to bring your postings back to their once prominent levels on this most distinguished international platform. Thank you in advance.


   
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 igor
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In defense of Hafez Assad


To: Colin Powell
From: Jude Wanniski
Re: The Death of Syria's Assad

On the working assumption that if George W. Bush is elected president and asks you to be his secretary of state, I thought you might find it useful to read a memo I requested from Peter Signorelli, the Middle East expert on my Polyconomics staff. In the 17 years he has been with me, Peter has proven himself an extremely careful analyst in separating fact from propaganda, which is the kind of analysis our corporate and financial clients expect of us.

You may note yesterday's editorial in The Wall Street Journal as well as widespread columns and comments, particularly in the New York Post, that portray Assad as a "monster." This is most definitely worthless propaganda, spoon-fed to editorialists by outside advisors who have a vested interest in continuing the demonization of Assad after his death, as they did while he lived. If you read the following memo and wish for corroboration, I suggest you invite Rowlie Evans to lunch and get a thorough review from a man who covered the Middle East from the earliest days of Israeli statehood.

Now basically retired, Rowlie appeared with his longtime partner on their Saturday CNN Evans & Novak show, with a replay of an interview he conducted with Assad several years ago. You can get a feel from that interview and Rowlie's comments at the conclusion of the show. But it would be worthwhile for you to get his view first hand of Assad as being an honorable man, one who was a victim of Israel in the 1967 war, not an aggressor. Here is Signorelli's memo, which came to me independently of my telephone conversation with Rowlie Evans Tuesday morning:





Part of Assad's demonization was because he was for so long a Soviet ally in the region. That ended with the coming of Gorbachev, but Israel and its allies found it convenient to maintain his demon image, simply rewriting history in a version that omitted or discarded any facts contrary to the image of the Syria/Assad they wanted to present. The Wall Street Journal seems to be leading the pack in the USA that is intent on portraying Assad as a monster, despite so much evidence to the contrary.

The late President Hafez Al-Assad was pilloried in the Western press as an intransigent Arab revanchist for his insistence that the Golan Heights be returned by Israel to Syria. The Israeli argument, which was retailed by Western media as well, was that Israel was compelled to seize the Golan in the 1967 Middle East War because Syria was using the Heights to shell Israeli settlements below them. Because of that threat, Israeli argued, return of the Golan to Syria would pose major security problems for Israelis. This of course is a grand distortion of the facts behind the seizure of the Golan by Israel.

No less an authority than the late General Moshe Dayan, Israel's Defense Minister in 1967 who gave the orders to take the Golan, revealed that the seizure of that territory from Syria was not based on any strategic military necessity. Dayan, who initially opposed taking the Golan, acknowledged that the so-called firefights with the Syrians in the Golan were the consequence of conscious and deliberate provocations by Israel and that the bottom-line reason for seizing the Golan from Syria was more a question of acquiring farmland, not security considerations.

In an interview in 1976 with Israeli journalist Rami Tal, and kept secret for 21 years before being printed in the Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahronot, Dayan revealed that "even on the fourth day of the war (when Dayan gave orders to take the Golan), the Syrians were not a threat to us." (The authenticity of the interview was attested to by Dayan's daughter, MP Yael Dayan, in 1997.)

Furthermore, Dayan advised "80% of the clashes" with Syria were deliberate provocations by the Israelis. "We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the airforce also. ..." This was taking place prior to the Six-Day war, with Israeli tanks being deployed against Syria in border skirmishes.

So much is made of Syria's military intervention into Lebanon, as if it were a war of territorial expansion by Damascus. Look at the situation at the time. Lebanon was torn by sectarian warfare. In 1975, warring Christian and Muslim militias and PLO guerrillas were threatening the territorial integrity of the country as well as the stability of newly elected Christian president Sarkis' government. In 1976, Syria intervened militarily to restore order (with the tacit approval of both the U.S. and the Arab League), to end the sectarian warfare, and to prevent the decimation of the Lebanese Christian communities by left-wing Muslim militias, particularly in southern Lebanon. Would Israel really have preferred a victory in Lebanon by the (mostly Shi'ite and virulently anti-Israeli) Muslim militias?

Assad's military response to the threat posed by Islamic extremists of the anti-secular Muslim Brotherhood in the Syrian city of Homa resulted in approximately 10,000 casualties (although we now see the Assad demonizers throwing out ludicrous figures of 20,000 to 30,000 or more casualties from that incident). The government responded with all its military resources. Some accounts try to present the action as if it were the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent unarmed civilians. No doubt there were numerous innocent civilian casualties, but the action was a military response to an armed insurrection against the government. For all their condemnation of Assad's response, would the Israelis or the West actually have preferred a militantly anti-West, anti-Israel new regime in Syria?

One thing Assad ought to be given credit for is the fact that he played a major role in preventing another outbreak of war with Israel. Although mauled by the Israelis in past wars, the Syrian armed forces, well-supplied over past years by Soviet arms and advisers, is still a formidable force, and still a serious security consideration for Israel. Yet Assad chose to keep his forces in check, lowering the threshold in the region for any war with Israel. An implacable foe of Israeli territorial ambitions, he in no way abandoned insistence that Israel abide by myriad U.N. resolutions calling upon it to restore land seized from the Palestinians, but he clearly kept that struggle from returning to armed hostilities.

That was no small accomplishment, especially given the growing mass sentiment and support in the Arab world for resolute struggle by any means necessary against the Israeli intransigence of the Begin and Netanyahu years.


   
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 igor
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http://www.antiwar.com/szamuely/sz-col.html Intersting article


   
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 igor
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Of Puppets and Oligarchs: Putin’s Crackdown Continues
0124 GMT, 000615
Russian media oligarch Vladimir Gusinsky was arrested late June 13 on suspicion of property theft. Foreign governments, Russian liberals and oligarchs immediately criticized the arrest as an attack on independent media. Russia’s oligarchs – all influential businessmen – are right to be concerned with the Russian government’s new assertiveness. The arrest, however, was not a move to destroy press freedom but simply to rein in oligarchs; others will follow.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has long had reason to dislike Vladimir Gusinsky. Gusinsky’s parasitic absorption of many of the Soviet Union’s assets by legally dubious means helped degrade Russian power to where it is today. More recently, Gusinsky has backed Kremlin outsiders – such as the unruly Moscow mayor Yuri Luzhkov – against Russia’s ruling elite.

Targeting Putin more personally, Gusinsky’s media empire was one of the few sources of domestic criticism of the Chechen war – the issue that propelled Putin to power. Furthermore, one of Gusinsky’s television shows, entitled “Kukly” or “The Puppets,” has lampooned Russian political figures for several years. Putin has not escaped Gusinsky’s scathing comedic knife.

Gusinsky claims that it is this criticism – and the Putin puppet specifically – that triggered the tax police raid on Gusinsky’s Media-MOST firm on May 11. Critics of the Kremlin say the same rationale lies behind Gusinsky’s arrest.

But in the long-daggered world of Russian politics, seeking revenge for an annoying puppet is ridiculous. Putin must curb the power of the oligarchs in order to bring Russia’s lucrative extraction industries under central control, a first step toward rooting corruption out of the Russian economy. Gusinksy controls the most extensive independent media in the country and is therefore in the best position to challenge any government program. It is logical that he is the first to fall.

With Media-MOST tamed, others will follow – and they know it. The day after Gusinsky’s arrest, 17 of Russia’s most influential businessmen sent a letter to Russia’s prosecutor-general vouching for Gusinsky’s “good behavior” and calling for his release. This solidarity is a far cry from their scathing attacks on each other only months previous.

Two signatories – Unified Energy Systems chief Anatoly Chubais and Rem Vyakhirev, the head of Russia’s natural gas giant, Gazprom – are bitter enemies. As recently as a month ago they were clashing furiously over the future of their respective firms. Desperation, like politics, makes strange bedfellows.

Other signatories include Sibneft oil group head Yevgeny Schvidler, Interros Financial Group chief Vladimir Potanin and Alfa Group (Bank) chairman Mikhail Friedman. All now face a common threat from the Kremlin.

Even Boris Berezovsky, a long-time insider in Kremlin politics, characterized his view of the arrest as “sharply negative,” despite the fact that Berezovsky’s own media holdings stand to gain the most from Gusinsky’s absence. A president angered by a puppet certainly could not threaten the oligarch of oligarchs. A president intent on taming the oligarchs is another matter entirely.

Putin is far too pragmatic a leader to expend so much political capital simply to incapacitate an annoying puppet. Moreover, Putin has not moved against the entire press, just Gusinsky. A wider media crackdown would do nothing for Putin’s goal of gathering Western economic aid. Putin will continue his crackdown until the oligarchs see things his way.


   
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(@hairymary)
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HI IGOR

Might the arrest of Vladimir Gusinsky be the begining of the end of supposed free speech in Russia. Putin on one hand will embrace capitalism and on the other he will try to reinstate the former hardline communist doctrin "he'll never change his stripes." Igor, Putin's political holiday will quickly come to an end over this arrest. Just hope that Putin won't order tanks to surround the DUMA after the political fallout begins. Stay tuned to the Camels Nut Gazzete, where free speech is guarded, for updates.


   
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 igor
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Mary the case has nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with fraud and ripping off the country.These oligarchs have ripped of or bought state owned companies for fractions of their real worth.They have stolen 941 billion dollars since 1991 and most of the money is transported out of the country.No wonder the country is in a mess.Yeltsin was part of this, however he has immunity.These other cockroaches do not and we will see more of them getting it real soon.Berezovsky should be the next one because he is the biggest crook.Primakov was investigating him but Yeltsin had him removed because of that.There is enough evidence to arrest all of these guys.The Russian public is suffering because of these PARASITES.


   
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 igor
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Mary how are you?You guys seem to be having a lot of fun lately.Myself I bought a mountain bike and am checking out the area.This area is great for recreation.In winter I will be skiing since the resort is 20 minutes away.I will get a season pass.Well I have to go to the beach today after I walk the dog,it is going to be 30 degrees today.I absolutly love the neighbourhood,very nice people here and of course the ladies are friendly too.It is great being the new guy on the block.


   
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(@hairymary)
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IGOR:

Had to step away for a bit. Glad to hear how happy you are in your new neighborhood. Sometimes, it just doesn't work out so well. Case in point was my former neighbor who was under the delusion {must of been his money} that our neighborhood activities and actions had to revolve around his schedule. Old bastard passed on.

Any rate, Igor, may I truely wish you all the happiness and good luck in your new enviornment. WHAT, YOU HAVE MUSLIM NEIGHBORS? WONDER IF THEY CAN SKI. HE HE HE


   
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